RagingBull Question???

Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:20 PM
Do you think in the future they will modify RagingBull trains to be the bigboy restraint? I was just wondering because i've seen a lot of people not fit on the ride and get really mad and heard tons of complaints!

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:24 PM
Well, if they get all the way to the station and then figured out they couldnt fit, it is their own fault. Because there is a test chair at the beginning of the line.

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Rob

I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:25 PM
My Brother is farely lazrega nd he fits quite easily into the RB Restraints. I don't think you can safely put all people on a coaster no matter if they are too tall too short to fat etc etc. It cannot be done safely however, look no further then perilous plunge to see this.

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 4:35 PM
I agree with you guys but why would they make the bigboy cars if it wasn't safe for a bigger guest to ride for example RagingBull? I know alot of big people who have made it yet I feel sorry for the people who can't and want to!

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If you are stoping by SFGAM come see me!cya, Josh

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:37 PM

I wont swear to this.but I am guessing, with the "big boy trains" as you call them, they are therefore designed and made to accomidate the larger riders. Therefore making it safe. But that is a pure guess.

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Rob

I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:46 PM
I think it is a necessity. I saw a couple try to ride the ride once and they were overweight, but not THAT overweight it wasn't that bad at all and the woman got out like they told her to yet the man stayed in and managed to pull the harness for a second click. I felt so bad for them though, I can't even imagine the embarrassment and disappointment after waiting 2 hours.

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:55 PM

I like the fact that alot, if not most, Beemers have "test seats" outside the ride. Plus, I've seen lots of people take pictures on them. But they don't really get used by people who should use them, and I think that's partially due to poor location of the test seats, to signage, and to guests not wanting to pay attention to stuff about restrictions, etc.

Gotta get to RB this year, I really am a *little* hard on B&M for not providing me enough intensity on most of their rides. If this layout doesn't DO IT, I don't know....Nitro's helix kinda rocked, not like S:RoS or the Big G at SFMM though.

P.S. Why not go the extra mile, put one of the "big boy seats" out front, and then put up signs to tell larger guests WHERE to find them...which row/seat...would help speed things up a little.

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 3/10/2002. ***

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Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:06 PM

ALF is cool said:
Well, if they get all the way to the station and then figured out they couldnt fit, it is their own fault. Because there is a test chair at the beginning of the line.

I agree there is no way of getting into the line without passing the chair and if you are larger you should use the test seat, thats what its there for.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 3:27 AM

I think that people don't use the test seats for a couple of reasons:

1) They are embarrassed to be seen trying the seat to see if it will fit them or not (forget about the WORSE embarrassment when they get to the platform and don't fit)

2) they see others going in AHEAD of them in line and the general mentality is to get into line ASAP. using the test seat might allow 5 or 10 people in ahead of them. Who wants to wait that extra one or two minutes?

Just how I see it.

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Just call me MPG...

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Monday, March 11, 2002 5:24 AM

...MPG, not hassling you or anything, but really, what's two minutes now checking to see if I'd fit vs. two hours in line only to find out I don't (and the "embarrassment", and slowing down the operation, and the disappointed members of my group when I can't ride)...

but I agree with you that guests SEE people getting in line "in front of me" and rush to get in...

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Monday, March 11, 2002 5:51 AM
Rollergator, I may be in the minority, but I didn't really find Raging Bull to be a showstopping ride. The first drop is great, and the turnaround and drop was nice, but after that it kind of dies. Its still a fun ride, but don't go in expecting a Magnumesque ride.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 6:21 AM

VFF: That post seems a bit off topic. What brought that up?

Do any of the B&M hypers have big boy seating? As far as I can remember, neither Apollo nor Nitro have it.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 8:21 AM

No, none of the B&M Mega coasters have "big boy" seats.

And rollergator, if you're expecting intensity from Raging Bull, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's more intense than Apollo, but not as intense as Nitro. If you didn't think Nitro was intense, well then... :)

By the way, to me, intensity = high positive G's and quick pacing. Raging Bull doesn't have much of either. What it DOES have is one of the absolute best first drops anywhere, a fantastically different layout, and some amazing airtime.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 9:38 AM

The latest rumor regarding the AIR/Superman Ultimate Flight restraints are that larger guests won't be able to ride. Supposedly the park may add a type of test harness out in front of the ride for those wanting to try it out, but from what I hear, if you have to use the big boy seat on other B&M coaches, you may not be able to fit in one of the newer 'prone' coasters.

Please keep in mind this info isn't official but it is from someone that has test ridden AIR and posted info on another forum.

-Sean

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Monday, March 11, 2002 10:23 AM

rollergator said:
"I like the fact that alot, if not most, Beemers have "test seats" outside the ride. Plus, I've seen lots of people take pictures on them.
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Gotta get to RB this year, I really am a *little* hard on B&M for not providing me enough intensity on most of their rides. If this layout doesn't DO IT, I don't know
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P.S. Why not go the extra mile, put one of the "big boy seats" out front, "

1. I dont think that the test seats do a lot of good, especially on the B&M hypers. A person could easily sit in one of the seats and think that they were all good, but when they get to the platform, the little telemetry system will tell the op that they are not quite safe, even though things *looked* fine in the test seat. Perhaps they need to have a staff member there by the test seat.

2. I honestly believe that you *will* be disapointed with Raging Bull. Personally, I find it to be the most enjoyable steel coaster I've ever been on (with S:ROS@SFA a close #2). But if it is intensity you seek, I'd daresay you are SOL. In anycase, ride as near to the back as possible and preferably to the left hand side. You can see downtown Chicago from the top, with one of the best skylines in the nation (is that okay SGRho :))

3. Better yet, why not make *all* the seats big boy seats. I think it's really stupid that there are segregated seats for fat people. I mean, I've *NEVER* seen an op tell a smaller rider that they cannot be accomodated by the bigger seat, so I dont understand why all the seats arent big. Now if the 'big girl' seat has some minimum girth requirement, then I'll resicnd this complaint. But as long as anyone 54" + can ride in that seat, I think all the seats should be that size. It would eliminate at least one problem.
lata,
jeremy
--who notes that his favorite coasters (The Legend, Raging Bull, S:ROS@SFA, Lightning Racer, Sonny, Montu, and Phantoms revenge) have almost NOTHING in common with each other (save they all have both left and right turns)

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Monday, March 11, 2002 11:59 AM

Well, 2Hostyl it is possible that the seats are designed differently (more expensive?) and parks/designers just don't see the benefit in creating the flexibility in all the seats when 99.9% of the time (total # of rides vs. number of rides that required big boy seats) it's not used.

I mean, I rode Alpie 7 times so we'll say I could see the loading maybe 35 times. 2 times someone needed to use the big boy seat. So 2 out of 32*35 riders needed it.

Doesn't seem like a worthy investment to equip the entire train.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 12:14 PM

2hostyl, you crack me up! I can see SF, Inc. approving extra staff for the "test seats" any day now...I know you were at least smiling when you typed that in...

I guess B&M and "intensity" are kinda mutually-exclusive concepts...(nothing to do with the oft-mentioned exclusivity contracts). Still, SFGAm will get a visit, if only for the WOOD (and sdrawkcab at that)...and RB will at least have an interesting layout - AC gets *docked* for that...

SF has the skyline for me, but I can only compare NYC and SF, at least until I see ChiTown...NOW, SGRho has something to complain about!

bill, still thinking that jeremy's face-down,azz-up description of the flyers is right on, but hoping the ground-hugging nature of S:UF will more than make up for the lack of comfort...

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Monday, March 11, 2002 12:23 PM
I agree that they should use test chairs, but the test chairs donclick, so they could think that they fit in the test chairs, but they dont fit on the ride.

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Monday, March 11, 2002 2:05 PM

2Hostyl said:

rollergator said:
2. I honestly believe that you *will* be disapointed with Raging Bull. Personally, I find it to be the most enjoyable steel coaster I've ever been on (with S:ROS@SFA a close #2). But if it is intensity you seek, I'd daresay you are SOL. In anycase, ride as near to the back as possible and preferably to the left hand side. You can see downtown Chicago from the top, with one of the best skylines in the nation (is that okay SGRho )

Really, the skyline. I have been on that thing over 100 times, and i havent seen the skyline. where do you look for it?



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Monday, March 11, 2002 2:22 PM

You can see the skyline of Chicago from the following rides at SFGAm...

*Sky Trek Tower

*Raging Bull

*Giant Drop

*Shockwave

*American Eagle

If you are riding Raging Bull, look backward on the lift hill and over your right shoulder. You will see three huge radio towers in the distance. You can see the skyline of Chicago between those two towers.

I really love Chicago's skyline, I haven't seen any better in real life (never have been to NYC).

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