Whatever, it's ONE person's opinion...
If your going to "carefully" select the protoypes that you can use to prove your point(kicking rides when they're down), well anyone could do that, about anything(why didn't we hear from you when X was running every day?). If you want to talk about the history of prototypes and what they've done for the industry, pro AND con, that to me makes for far more intellegent discussion.
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Vertigo said:
Magnum XL 200 and Bandit(first hyper coasters) ...
Rock n' Roller Coaster and Space Mountain(first lanched coasters) ...
Mr.Freeze(first launched shuttle coaster+fisrt top hat inversion)
1) What is "Bandit" never heard of it, could you be thinking of Desparado?
2) I dont know about Space Mountain, but RnR was NOT the first launched.
3) Mister Freeze wasn't the first launched shuttle. What about Shwartzkopfs(sp?) shuttle loops?
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800,000 years in 7 seconds: Time Machine the movie or next S&S creation?
I think we need prototypes to get some of the great new coasters we've gotten over the last decade. Some work out great, some don't. I do wish the parks/manufacturers would get them right before opening them. Again, some have waited, some have opened them and had plenty of problems.
That being said, to me personally....I don't consider Medusa, Apollo and a few others prototypes. They are firsts, but the only thing different about Medusa is there is no floor. Other than the station floor and some changes to the train, it didn't require a radical new design or new technology. Same with Apollo. It's taller, has different seats and lapbars. When I think prototype, I think X (radically different design), Batman TR, Volcano, Hypersonic, Superman TE, etc. Those all had something very different in launch technology, track design, etc. This is just my opinion.
All in all, I like all coasters. Some are not so great, but any coaster not operating is a sad thing.
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Rctycoon2k said:
actually this is a "bandit" roller coaster in a diff. country that i beleive wasn't over 200 feet though-----------------
Bandit was the first complete circuit coaster to open with a drop 200+ feet long(around 250 feet to be exact) and has the fastest high speed thrill ride when built in 1988. Bandit would be on my top list if it wasn't so rough. Depends on what you consider the hyper. If Phantom Revenge is a hyper then Bandit is too. That's why I put both down. It's in Japan by the way at Yamiuri Land, same place as White Canyon and the world's only coaster to operate stand up and a sit down train.
3) Mister Freeze wasn't the first launched shuttle. What about Shwartzkopfs(sp?) shuttle loops?
I'm talking about LIMs, not Schwarzkoph catapult launches.
2) I dont know about Space Mountain, but RnR was NOT the first launched.
I'm talking about one in Japan. You're thinking way too narrow minded. There are coasters in many other places than the United States. If I said Iron Wolf could have been more complex, you'd think I was talking about SFGAm but I'm not, because SFGAm did not have the first Iron Wolf.
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Hummm... Last time I checked, Space Mountain at DLP (probably the Space Mountain you're talking about) was the first complete circuit launched coaster (opened in 1995)
The cable lift thing has been around since the beginning of the 1900's and actually been used before chain lifts to haul trains up hills! If you talk about modern utilisation (using a cart/chariot pulled by a cable to pull a train up a hill), then Space Mountain (opened in 1995) is the first to use that system.
Vertigo said:
Rctycoon2k said:
actually this is a "bandit" roller coaster in a diff. country that i beleive wasn't over 200 feet though-----------------
Bandit was the first complete circuit coaster to open with a drop 200+ feet long(around 250 feet to be exact) and has the fastest high speed thrill ride when built in 1988. Bandit would be on my top list if it wasn't so rough. Depends on what you consider the hyper. If Phantom Revenge is a hyper then Bandit is too. That's why I put both down. It's in Japan by the way at Yamiuri Land, same place as White Canyon and the world's only coaster to operate stand up and a sit down train.
3) Mister Freeze wasn't the first launched shuttle. What about Shwartzkopfs(sp?) shuttle loops?
I'm talking about LIMs, not Schwarzkoph catapult launches.
2) I dont know about Space Mountain, but RnR was NOT the first launched.
I'm talking about one in Japan. You're thinking way too narrow minded. There are coasters in many other places than the United States. If I said Iron Wolf could have been more complex, you'd think I was talking about SFGAm but I'm not, because SFGAm did not have the first Iron Wolf.
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You're wrong AGAIN. Bandit is 196', slightly short of 200'. The ride's drop is not higher than 190'. Bandit was indeed the first steel roller coaster that emphasized tall drops, speed, with no inversions. Magnum XL-200 just took that to the next level by breaking the 200' barrier.
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