Pretzel Loop Question?

Monday, March 24, 2003 11:26 AM
Since I'm right by SFGAm, I'm really gettin excited about the 3rd of May....and seeing all the SFGAdv pictures....I'm totally anxious, along with everyone else, right!!!???

My question is....when the train enters the pretzel loop, does the train slam into the top of the quarter loop....or does it just barely make it? With all the talk about the G's hitting through the pretzel loop, I'm fascinated by this inversion,.....Does the train hit the top and fly through the rest, or does it creep up to the top and just barely make it? I guess only the SFOG people can answer this one.... thanks for your responses.
-Jeff-

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Monday, March 24, 2003 11:30 AM
Watch the video and see for yourself. It'll probably give you a better idea than anyone's description would.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/videos/video.htm

-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 3/24/2003 4:31:16 PM ***

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Monday, March 24, 2003 11:31 AM
It really does neither, the train enters the loop at an average speed. The strong G-forces come at the bottom and just as you climb the back side of the loop. As you enter you get a good floating sensation as you go diving head first into the loop.

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Monday, March 24, 2003 12:47 PM
The Themeparkreview video was filmed on Media Day, when the coaster had JUST opened. Opening Day at SFOG, the trains went through the top of the inversion moderately slow. I can assure you from personal experience, however, that by the end of the season during warmer weather, the train will FLY (excuse the pun) through the entire inversion.

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Monday, March 24, 2003 1:18 PM
Yeah I rode it the other day it went through it at about 20-30 mph. The pretzel loop is awesome though. Its the best inversion in the world.

A-Rod

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Monday, March 24, 2003 1:54 PM
It really is an incredibly inversion. You get some awesome negative Gs at the top, and some of the best positive Gs I've ever felt at the bottom.

You don't quite 'slam' into it, but it isn't exactly gentle either.

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Monday, March 24, 2003 1:56 PM
It doesnt go real fast through the top, but has some strong g's in the inversion. The only part of this inverison i liked was going straight down the first part, but the rest didnt do much for me. I rode it a while after it opened and every one was saying how great it was, and i kinda expected too much, so do be too excited

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Monday, March 24, 2003 7:03 PM
One quick question... How does the Pretzel Loop compare to going through the Vertical Loop backwards on X-Flight at SFWoA? Do they offer very similar experiences?
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Monday, March 24, 2003 7:09 PM
Nothing alike Jes

The forces are so much stronger and prolonged on the prtzel loop, and the element is so much larger and full of different forces.

They aren't comparable.

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Monday, March 24, 2003 8:13 PM
I disagree as a whole and especially in the backwards loop the Gs on X-Flight are much more intense. I personally only get a little bit of positive Gs on the pretzel loop of Superman and I want more! Due to this fact I believe that the Verkoma model gives a superior ride, but thats just one man's opinion :)

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Monday, March 24, 2003 8:23 PM
A little bit? So not be able to breathe or scream is not enough?

As I was saying the forces are so varied in the pretzel unlike the loop which is just well a loop.

The pretzel loop is comparable to a Cobra Roll or Bowtie to me. There are many parts with many different forces acting upon your body. You start out with negative or Zero G's at the top and then dive head first at the ground into massively prolonged positive g's and then climb back up into more negatives g's and then twist into the helix.

It all flows together as one element composed of smaller elements.

It's so large and varied the singular positive g experience of the Vekoma's loop is in no way comparable to it. I am not saying it is any less or more intense though.

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Monday, March 24, 2003 8:59 PM
In my opinion, the trains enter the pretzel rather slowly.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:34 AM
Al this talk at superman: ultimate flight makes me can't wait till april 17, 2003 when I'm one of the first to ride superman at great adventure. I can't wait to get that experience!
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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:19 AM
That was such a useful and informative post....just like this one!

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:03 PM
Realy, overall the train doesn't speed into the loop, however; it doesn't need to because I experienced plenty of air-time, and I was in the front seat, idk if it is even better in the back. The ride isn't "Amazing" per se, but it's still something new and fun. Just like any other coaster.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:32 PM
I thought of something about the pretzel loop I wanted to ask everyone: is the lowest part of the track at the bottom of the first drop, or the bottom of the pretzel?

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:04 PM
Bottom of the pretzel. There is actually a trench there.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:16 PM
What about the SFOG one... from what I can tell, the bottom of the pretzel is lower than the first drop also.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:25 PM
That is what I was talking about.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:40 PM
Well... it's not really in a "trench" per se (they graded off the hillside), so I figured you meant the SFGAm one.

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*** This post was edited by General Public 3/25/2003 7:41:03 PM ***

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