Police injured in riot at Castle Park

More here from The LA Times.

F'ing animals.

Oh snap...I'm rolling now. That was the best post in a while Vater. Out-f-ing-standing. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

Yah, this is my hometown, and no, I'm not surprised. ;)

Very sad indeed. Gangs and their lifestyle are destroying today's youth and affecting people in general. I work as a ride operator at Rotary Playland in Fresno California, a small park that has an Everly Rock-O-Plane and Octopus. The fact is that blacks cause the most trouble at our park, followed by hispanics. I don't want to play the race card, but from what I read and hear about park distrubances across the country, it almost always involves blacks and latinos. Not long ago we had an incedent involving a black woman who cut in front of someone for a snow cone, and a fight broke out summoning police. Castle Park is a very nice small park, that was built by Bud Hurlbut who operated and created the mine train and log ride at Knott's Berry Farm. The thugs who were looking for trouble went there, because it was a $5 dollar unlimited rides promotion and they would be noticed. Did they ever!

Well, the good white people have better JOBS!

It's not about race. It's about income.

I feel uncomfortable standing in queue lines where there are aggressive, ill-mannered people, regardless of their ethnicity. To combat this, I pay for fast-pass lanes, and I visit parks on less crowded days, or when there are no discount offers. I also visit parks with higher entrance fees and in gentrified areas because the clientelle is more civilized.

For example, I find that in the winter and spring months, Magic Mountain has an ethnically and demographically diverse and refined crowd of well mannered folks. Same with KBF. Same with Michigan's Adventure on the day I visited.

Untitled writer, point taken. But I've even encountered those who have better income, and they still act and behave badly. If I go to a theme park (and usually alone) I buy the fast pass too and avoid standing in long lines. If you can't visit a park during less crowded days and spend the bucks to get in anyway, it makes sense to spend a little more and really enjoy and make the most of the visit. During the ACE Coaster Con at Magic Mountain a couple of years ago, it was very hot during the day. I bought the fast passes and returned at dusk when lines were well over an hour long, and got in two dozen rides in less than 3 hours. That plus the ERT and meeting new people, it was the best time I've had in years.

I don't think it's about race.
at SFWOA i saw most races acting like idiots. The only common point was what they wore and how they wore it. I think one of the funniest near fights i've seen was when i was in line for Batman knight flight.
It was like the United Nations of the Damned: We had orientals, Blacks, Puerto ricans, mexicans, and yes, Neo-Nazi's, and large a number for Rednecks. And all of them were flying colors. My girlfriend was pretty nervous. Everything was cool until someone started singing, and i kid you not, Millie Vinnilli. I thought a riot would break out the way everyone was screaming at that guy to shut up. That's when i realized, at least one person from every group was telling that fool to shut up. Then the Goths started chanting: Sacrifice-sacrifice....
Then we started laughing...
It's not a race thing. it's an attitude/ mob-rules thing.

White people never fight, right? And what about short people? I think most gang members tend to be short; we should ban them from parks.

I can't even express how sad it is that in 2005, we still have to actually debate whether race is to blame for behavior.

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Some call a race thing, some call it reality.

In California the trouble is with those two, African Americans and hispanics/latinos. Rarely do I hear of Asians and white/caucasions involved in major fights/brawls out here. In Ohio and other places as mentioned there are rednecks/white trash too that cause trouble as well. In recent years there were brawls at Paramount's Great America and Six Flags Magic Mountain. Both stemmed from rap and hip-hop concerts, and I'm sorry but both races were instigators and were all involved. In 1991 at a concert at SFMM before the show, black and hispanic youth were hurling serious insults with lots of foul language that was shocking to others in the crowd. Park staff had to come in and kick out the offenders and warned everyone else if it continued, the concert would be canceled. It's a sick society folks, and I wish "we could all get along" because ill behavior should not be tolorated by ANYONE!

Rigggggggggght. Only black and hispanic folk listen to rap. *Cough*

That 1991 concert at SFMM by the way featured C & C Music Factory and Timmy Tee (remember the pop ballad "One More Try" that was a number one song for a few weeks). Not hard core stuff. 'Playa why have parks pretty much banned rap and hip-hop concerts? Because they pose problems for park security and guests. People of all colors do like/love rap music, but it creates and promotes hostility, hatred and the gang culture. In this instance the thugs first fought each other, then they turned on park security and then local police and other law enforcement. I know security at fairs is increased when they have these type concerts, and expect trouble. Ours in Fresno is included. Many parks and fairs have/are adopting zero tollerance policys.

Get real. Morons promote hostility, not music. I'd add that the majority of rap music is sold to, you guessed it, suburban white kids.

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I can't even express how sad it is that in 2005, we still have to actually debate whether race is to blame for behavior.

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I agree. I think it's obvious that it does. But anyone who says that is immediately labeled a racist which is incorrect. EVERYONE is racist to a certain extent. But that does not make you a bigot. There is a difference. A bigot is one who will act on their racist views. So I think it's pretty obvious in this case that the actual bigots were the ones who attacked the police. Of course if race has nothing to do with it, we should not give anyone from middle-eastern decent a second look when boarding a plane right? And before you jump all over me my wife is arabic, comes from Iraq as a matter of fact. I was born and raised here. She was the first one to point out that anyone from the mideast should be given a second look when boarding a plane. Is it racist? Or just common sense? As far as music having anything to do with it, I really don't think so. After all, I doubt the hijackers of 9/11 listened to hip hop or rap.

OK, let's talk about something REALLY important. Like did that guy mentioned in a previous post actually SING Milli Vanilli? I mean even Milli Vanilli didn't actually sing Milli Vanilli.

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Get real. Morons promote hostility, not music. I'd add that the majority of rap music is sold to, you guessed it, suburban white kids.

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I agree that morors promote hostility, but music tastes promote it too. I'm not saying if you listen to rap you're going to kill somebody, but the people who listen to rap normally arn't that secure and feel they need to act out, no matter if they are asian, white, black, or latino. My home park is PKD, the infamous park where every year riots would break out in the streets and parking lot after the hip-hop/rap concerts. EVERY YEAR. Thank god they stopped it this year, but I'll tell you something, when Clay Aken or some country singer came, there wern't any fights or killings. Simply put, it's the people the music attracts, not the music itself that invokes people.

Clay Aiken inspires killings...but they tend to be suicides.

LOL Playa....But don't forget Barry "I write the songs that make the whole world puke" Manilow...