PKI Avatar: Gyro Flyer?

Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:23 PM
Well was just looking at the coasters that Premier offered and one caught my eye. It is called a Gyro Flyer. I have the link below, but from what I understand it seems like a family/junior suspeneded coaster that allows the vehicles to spin freely

If you read the articles from the cincinnati post and enquier it is hinted that the ride is a first of its kind and it does spin. I believe the Gyro Flyer by Premier rides is rather new and has not been built at any park as of now. Also it does spin, so it very well could be a possibility. Just looking at the picture, it does seem like an improved version of the coaster they are taking out, Scooby Doo Ghoster Coaster.

Premier rides have been involved in some of their recent coasters. Italian Job, Trains for Son of Beast, and Flight of Fear. So Paramounts relationship with this ride manufacture I assume is very good and it iis conceivable that they would want another ride from them.

I am interested if anyone knows more and also seeing what peoples opinions of this possibility. Do you think this could be it, or I am completely off?

Link is Below:

http://www.premier-rides.com/ridesdex.html

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Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:35 PM
Wow, looks like it.
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Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:46 PM
Gyro Flyer? That's a Caripro design... same guys who did Ghoster Coaster at PKI. The only one that exist right now is "Skyrider" at Skyline Park in Germany.

From what I know about Caripro... parks don't really like them in terms of maintenance! *** Edited 9/25/2005 2:47:32 AM UTC by Absimilliard***

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Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:00 PM
I rather hope that is not it. Basically different trains on the same sort of ride.
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Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:50 AM
why get rid of one capsity nightmare for another?

Oh wait, I'll only have to wait four hours now.

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Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:51 AM
Perhaps they're going to use some or all of the Ghoster Coaster's track for this ride? Possibly just modifying the lift?
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Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:10 AM
Caripro is gone, which is part of the problem...they were caught up in the Showquest failure. But ETF Ride Systems (no connection with Environmental Tectonics/Entertainment Technologies) apparently still handles a lot of Caripro stuff, though I don't see the Batflyer on the list.

I wonder if DragonRider has sussed it, though. Depending on whether the clearances work out with the lift, I wonder if the existing Batflyer could be converted to a Gyro Flyer. The train ride mentioned could also be a theme-job for the very strange little train ride that's back there now, and we know the Beastie is going to get an ill-advised re-theming. Likewise, we can expect new figures on the Herschell merry-go-round. That means huge changes to four rides that will make a major difference in the look of the area without the need to buy entirely new rides, which may be a significant cost savings given that there's nothing wrong with those rides. And that would allow for a more elaborate Spongebob thing to replace that colossal waste of space water maze they have in there now.

Hey, it makes sense to me; it would be a smart way to re-theme a large section of the park while keeping within a reasonable cap-ex budget. That isn't a matter of the park being cheap, it's a matter of the park being smart.

I just hope they figure out a way to keep the Whip.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:17 AM
They could always 'slap' a new name and some Nicktoons on the kiddie whip (as well as a few other kiddie rides)! Hopefully the kiddie tumble bug will stay as well.

I wonder how (or if) they'll retheme Yogi's Copters? That ride ALWAYS has a long line, though, my guess is more because of capacity. Still, the kids seems to love that ride!

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Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:49 AM
Wasn't this family-coaster mentioned in the articles as one of the completely new rides for 2006? If so, they'd probably trash the old Ghoster Coaster, wouldn't they? At least I'm hoping so! It would be fun for the kids, but when I first saw it I thought, "This is not a people-mover! Get ready to wait, wait, and wait some more."

Another thought was...this thing spins freely, it's rotations are not controlled like X, (it's the only quick example I could think of, sorry). This ride may not be family-friendly for some, if not many!

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Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:55 AM
Well I was under the impression that there will be 18 rides, and all the rides will be something that adults and kids could ride together. So the rides like the whip for kids would not be there since only kids could ride it.

Even though I started this idea of them getting the Gyro Flyer, I am starting to doubt it myself. It seems like the same type of ride, but with spinning cars that seat 4. The ride I would believe have an elevator lift, so the capacity might be 4 times better but maybe 280 pph instead of 70 pph. I think any adult that tried the Ghoster Coaster thought it sucked because of its sudden stops and pain it induced in certain body parts. Why go with something so similar?

I hope they do not, but it is not completely unlikely. First the ride is not a first of its kind, which was pointed out in this thread. There has been one ride built before. However they could have ment the first of its kind here in North America or something along those lines.

Since they hinted at spinning, I think the spinning part is why I thought it could be this. I don't think it spins that fast, since the Gyro Flyer is designed as a junior/family coaster. The only other spinning ride out there is a spinning wild mouse. There are several spinning wild mouses, so I don't know how if they added one it could be first of its kind.

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Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:41 AM
It seems like Premier now has the rights to this design. Does anyone know what happened to Caipro and why Premier Rides site now has Gyro Flyer, Bat Flyer, etc. They are under roller coasters they offer along with their launched rides and other coasters.

The following is the technical data or statistics on this Gyro Flyer ride type. The information was taken from the Premier Website.

GyroFlyer Specifications

TECHNICAL DATA

Track Length Single Track = 1 x 558 ft

Double Track = 2 x 558 ft.

Ride Time Approx = 40 sec.

Lift Time Approx = 20 Sec

Number of Gondolas = 5 on Single Track

Number of Gondolas = 10 on Double Track

People per Gondola = 4 persons

mininum height Requirement = 4ft = 48 inches

Theoretical Capacity= Max 600 pph on Single Track Max 1200 pph on Double Track

I always find the theoretical capacity quite funny sometimes. Do they really think anyone could really get 600 pph for a ride like that? I would be happy with half that number if PKI added it. *** Edited 9/25/2005 12:49:17 PM UTC by Beast Fan*** *** Edited 9/25/2005 12:50:52 PM UTC by Beast Fan***

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Monday, September 26, 2005 9:52 AM
Beast Fan: Remember Showquest? That was a consortium of (mostly) Dutch amusement companies, which included Vekoma and Caripro. A kind of an Intamin of the Netherlands, I suppose. Anyway, something went very wrong with it, resulting in the simultaneous failure of several companies including Caripro and Vekoma. Vekoma reorganized and became Kumbak, and it seems that Caripro split, with some product going to Premier Rides and some product going to ETF. (Interesting; ETF is a Belgian consortium, but their website is a ".nl", not a ".be"...). Oh, and as for Vekoma...the company now known as Vekoma sells and supports pretty much the same product as the pre-Showquest Vekoma, but it is, as I understand it, a very different company.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Monday, September 26, 2005 11:43 PM
Out on a crazy limb, a spinning (or rotating) water coaster from Premier would be amazing.

+Danny

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:37 AM
The attraction is not being made by Premier.

Scooby's Ghoster Coaster will be completely removed and not re-used.

The "coaster" will be a new design never before installed at a park. And it will have a good hourly capacity from what I am told. Think.... Delirium...

Shaggy *** Edited 9/27/2005 12:38:11 PM UTC by Shaggy***

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:01 AM
Delirium..........sounds like a mini half pipe which would be like a disk-o.
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:24 AM
Vekoma did not become Kumbak. Several people from Vekoma formed Kumbak, but the assets of Vekoma did not follow them.

Adam

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:19 AM
Think.... Delirium...

...on a track...

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:23 AM
Delirium on a track would take up way too much real estate to be truly viable. But not if you shrink the disk a bit and put more than one disk on the track. I am thinking a type of spinning mouse made by Huss possibly.
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:02 PM
Delirium on a track...Intamin Half-pipe?
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:39 PM
An Intamin Half-Pipe has already been installed at a couple parks (Six Flags Elitch Gardens, Sarkanniemi) though and it's capacity doesn't seem so hot.

Maybe it's a Intamin Twist and Turn Coaster- This unique motion enables dark rides to be exciting but not necessarily expensive. If they're planning a big coaster for 2007 for the 35th anniversary and Coaster Con, I wouldn't be surprised if they're going with a couple coasters with them. http://www.intaminworldwide.com/i_products_roller.htm

+Danny *** Edited 9/27/2005 4:49:28 PM UTC by +Danny***

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