PGA and coaster size
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I miss the Lobster. That thing ruled! Anyways, everything PGA has is just a miniature version of something at SFMM.
Demon = Viper
Vortex = Riddler
Top Gun = Batman
Invertigo = Deja Vu
Wood is a toss up. Both parks suck in that department. One ride both parks had was the Edge/Freefall.
I like SFMW way better than PGA. I used to work at PGA, and it's a lot closer, but I like SFMW's rides. Other than Stealth, there is nothing at PGA that stands out, unlike Roar, Medusa, and V2 at SFMW.
It's just a different environment. PGA has more artificial theming, while SFMW takes advantage of the natural setting.
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Bigger is not always better. But not just that, If by natural setting you mean dirtier, then I guess your right. Medusa's queue is discusting, the lake so dirty you hate to walk by it, it smells so bad, and the employees are the slowest I have ever experienced.
SFMW has the better rides, yet I find myself completely bored after about 3 or 4 hours. If PGA ever gets some good wood, I would never need to go back to SFMW ever. Delirium and Top Gun by themselves wipe out everything at that other park.
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OutKast said:
Bigger is not always better. But not just that, If by natural setting you mean dirtier, then I guess your right. Medusa's queue is discusting, the lake so dirty you hate to walk by it, it smells so bad, and the employees are the slowest I have ever experienced.
SFMW has the better rides, yet I find myself completely bored after about 3 or 4 hours. If PGA ever gets some good wood, I would never need to go back to SFMW ever. Delirium and Top Gun by themselves wipe out everything at that other park.
Haha... you must have not gone to PGA when I worked there. All my fellow coworkers were trouble makers and gangbangers (I was the good one =P). I don't even bother to go to PGA at all anymore. Shoot, all I have to do is bolt down Highway 5, and I'm at SFMM in about 4.5 hours. That's about the same time it takes to get to Reno. If you aren't too tired, you can make it a day trip, or just stay overnight, and cruise around LA a little bit the next day.
Anyways, back to the subject, I see a lot of gangs at PGA, something I don't see much of at SFMW. Besides, look at the attendance. Since SFMW converted to Six Flags, it has continually beat PGA year after year, and this season looks no different. The park seems waaaay more crowded than last year. Considering that PGA has a much larger population base within a 30 mile radius (Santa Clara, San Mateo, and Alameda Counties) than SFMW (Solano, Contra Costa, and Napa Counties), that is a magnificent feat indeed. Numbers don't lie.
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Yeah I was speaking more from personal experience. For me, I find a MUCH worse element at SFMW. Marine World is cheaper, and with the cheap season passes, I find everybody and their ghetto momma at that park.
The numbers may not lie, but Six Flags does.
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PGA is a great park. I mean its right there for a lot of people to get to. You don't have to travel for 2 hours and 20 minutes like I have to, to get to Cedar Point. I think its a great park with great rides. Top Gun is definatly one of the most intense coasters I have been on. I don't think its short, I think its the right size for a small park. Same with all of the parks other rides. PGA has a very diverse collection of roller coasters so I say enjoy them.
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Greezed Lighting has the shortest line of any adult coaster in the country I bet! Vertigo, they have to have those brakes stop the ride, it is how it was built! It is the predisessor to Monte, I really like the ride, the loop is great, and the first spike has airtime golore! Pyscho Mouse is very fun, nice airtime on the bottom.
The flat rides are great as well, way retro-classic style. The new one Delirium looks awesome, haven't got to ride :(
Water rides are cool ( pun indended) Drop Zone, is one of the best thrill rides I have ever expierenced. Wow.
I am however, dissapointed to hear were getting a super saturater for next year, PGA needs a new BIG coaster! But it will still be fun.
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OutKast said:
Vertigo, just to name a few:
Delirium, Revolution, Flying Scooters, Triple Play, Orlean's Orbit, Celebration Swings, Logger's Run, Columbia carousel, Drop Zone Stunt Tower, Whitewater Falls, 7th Portal, Barney'sOldfield Speedway, Revolution, Fiddler's Fling.
Um, you were saying?
I was saying that when I say I need to hear a joke, you don't have to hit me that hard.
So desperate to list good flat rides at PGA that you threw in the park's water rides, drop tower, antique car ride, theater, and wrote Revolution twice. Sorry man, but those aren't flat rides, you can argue mabye with Drop Zone, but they're not flats.
For good a thrill Berseker, Triple Play, Celebration Swings, Revolution are rusty junk compared to the theme and quality Voo Doo, The Ark, Jambo, and Tasmanian Devil. Plus those are just half of them. You still have Hammerhead, Monkey Buisness, Wave Swinger, and Walk-a-bout.
(notice I didn't add things like, Sky coaster, Monsoon Fall, White Water Adventure.....)
Todd said:Vertigo, they have to have those brakes stop the ride, it is how it was built! It is the predisessor to Monte, I really like the ride, the loop is great, and the first spike has airtime golore!
No, the brakes Paramount started grinden on once they took over Great America are what ruined the ride. I've been on 11 shuttle loops from Britian to Japan, and none of tem have apply the brakes right after the launch and that strongly before going back into the station. Monte is much more intense if you want to know what a shuttle loop is suposed to be like, and the full train actually goes up the back spike and much more than that. Greased Lightin' barely rolls three cars out of the station and up the back spike before the train stick like glue. There is a big difference in manditory brakes and then trims. I draw the line with PGA and their plethora of trims and taming. There coaster were golden, and for over a decade I loved this park, but it is not the same anymore, and the up keeping of the rides has far from impressed me.
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"So desperate to list good flat rides at PGA that you threw in the park's water rides, drop tower, antique car ride, theater, and wrote Revolution twice. Sorry man, but those aren't flat rides, you can argue mabye with Drop Zone, but they're not flats."
Desperate? Dude, it ain't that deep LOL.
They're not flatrides by who's definition? Where is the rule book? I want to see it. By my definition, any ride that's NOT a coaster is a form of flatride. Your lucky I left off the IMAX.
And for the record, while Taz is cool, Jambo is a piece of junk, and VooDoo runs the weakest cycle of any of these type rides. Turn it up some SFMW!
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OutKast said:
"So desperate to list good flat rides at PGA that you threw in the park's water rides, drop tower, antique car ride, theater, and wrote Revolution twice. Sorry man, but those aren't flat rides, you can argue mabye with Drop Zone, but they're not flats."
Desperate? Dude, it ain't that deep LOL.
They're not flatrides by who's definition? Where is the rule book? I want to see it. By my definition, any ride that's NOT a coaster is a form of flatride. Your lucky I left off the IMAX.
And for the record, while Taz is cool, Jambo is a piece of junk, and VooDoo runs the weakest cycle of any of these type rides. Turn it up some SFMW!
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So, basically, by your definition, we'll start calling, sky coasters, monrails, skyrides, skyscrapers, bungee cords, ripcords, trampolines, VR theaters, motion simulators, turbo rides(like Back to the Future) all flat rides? Oh why don't we take it to the next level, the Powell Street Cable Cars, the the little 25 cent fire up machines in front of Safeway, the go karts up at Scandia, and even BART are flat rides ROFL!!!
Jambo got more airtime time than any coaster at PGA, LOL!!!
Voo Doo spirit must have kept PGA from getting on then. If you want to see a bad cycle, try Avalanche at the Alameda County Fair or the old Rocker at Solano, or just take a trip to Santa Cruz, where they'll give the most neck breaking top spin ride you'll ever experience. Top Spins may hurt, but they surely beat that old Triple Play junk. Let's just settle this here, two different views, tow different parks, agreement es never gonna' happen man.
Katooli, Outkast. Wait it's....... oh' the heck with kswahili rules, jambo Outkast.
*** This post was edited by Vertigo on 7/29/2002. ***
OutKast said:
Marine World is cheaper, and with the cheap season passes, I find everybody and their ghetto momma at that park.
The numbers may not lie, but Six Flags does.
The PGA WOW! card is cheaper than the Six Flag season pass. And what does Six Flags lie about?
About the clientele... PGA is located in the heart of the Silicon Valley, the highest per capita income region in the nation. Most of SFMW's clientele comes from Solano County, CoCo County, and dare I say... Sacramento. Does that explain your trailer trash? I would much rather deal with redneck hicks at SFMW than the wannabe gangsters at PGA.
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Vertigo said:
So, basically, by your definition, we'll start calling, sky coasters, monrails, skyrides, skyscrapers, bungee cords, ripcords, trampolines, VR theaters, motion simulators, turbo rides(like Back to the Future) all flat rides? Oh why don't we take it to the next level, the Powell Street Cable Cars, the the little 25 cent fire up machines in front of Safeway, the go karts up at Scandia, and even BART are flat rides ROFL!!!
Jambo got more airtime time than any coaster at PGA, LOL!!!
Voo Doo spirit must have kept PGA from getting on then. If you want to see a bad cycle, try Avalanche at the Alameda County Fair or the old Rocker at Solano, or just take a trip to Santa Cruz, where they'll give the most neck breaking top spin ride you'll ever experience. Top Spins may hurt, but they surely beat that old Triple Play junk. Let's just settle this here, two different views, tow different parks, agreement es never gonna' happen man.
Jambo kicks ass! It's not too fun when you are the only ones riding it, but when it's filled to capacity, that thing feels like it's about to fly off the support! They used to have one at PGA called the Cajun Carpet. That one was a totally detuned kiddie unit though.
Nah, dude. The cable cars aren't a flat ride. They are a coaster! hahaha Going over those bunny hills in the City is a lot more thrilling than anything at PGA. Hey, and going through the Transbay Tube on Bart is a dark ride! hahaha
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Teenage Ninja said:
I would rather have a short intense ride, than a long boring one. Compare this Top Gun to Iron Dragon, has anyone ever said Iron Dragon is better?
Top Gun is inverted. Iron Dragon is suspended. They are not comparable.
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Ok guys, it's obvious I'm not going to convert either of you into PGA fans if your not. So, we call it a draw. Just don't be jumping on the bandwagon once you find out what's coming next year! Cause I have a LONG memory :~)
I'm cool. Seems like more people here agree with me. We'll leave it at that.
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