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An animal rights group has sued SeaWorld accusing the chain of aquatic theme parks of violating the rights of captive killer whales under the 13th Amendment of the Constitution, which abolished slavery.
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This is pure comedy. Anyone ever see that PETA episode of South Park?
"The term is 'amusement park.' An old Earth name for a place where people could go to see and do all sorts of fascinating things." -Spock, Stardate 3025
Presumably the situation would need to be set up such that you could rescue one of them only with no risk of falling in yourself. And neither of them would otherwise be able to climb out on their own if you went to save the other.
My wife and I joke that we would save the kids first, then the dog and then each other. A stranger wouldn't stand much of a chance. Though depending on the day, I am not sure I would stand a chance of being saved over the stranger either.
OhioStater said:
Of course. And incidentally, many people choose the dog.
It's strange, because I can watch campy slaughterhouse movies all day and night. People getting hacked and slashed and whatever, but as soon as someone hurts a dog, I'm out.
That scene in Halloween where you hear the dog whimper and you know Michael Myers just killed him, makes me cringe. The next scene, where he's jamming the knife into a person, doesn't phase me.
Sigh. I wish there were a rational alternative to PETA, which is pro-animal rights, and not pro-idiot.
Random ex: lab testing to create medication/cures is totally fine, but lab testing just to create the 10000th scent of cologne isn't really necessary; having 10000 cologne scents isn't needed.
I can understand that the super emotionally charged members of PETA comparing SeaWorld to slavery, but the fact that these people also make corporate decisions and create lawsuits which will likely go nowhere makes me extremely depressed; I'd like to hope it's not representative of the majority of it's members, but I have a feeling I may be wrong.
OhioStater said:
So if I am reading you correctly, eightdotthree, black Amercians (and other humans who are currently or who have in the past been subject to slavery) are equivalent to whales.
It's African Americans if you really want to get down to it.
I didn't even mention the suit in my post which I find ridiculous. It doesn't negate the fact that capturing large animals from the wild, forcing them to swim in small tanks and perform tricks is cruel.
OhioStater said:
You know, there's an old psych study where they ask you to consider a scenario in which a stranger and your dog have both fallen into icy water (like on a frozen pond)...which one would you save?
I wouldn't on the frozen pond with my dog to begin with.
OhioStater said:
Someone has watched way too much Disney.
Really?
OhioStater said:
You also apparently feel the deaths at the hands of Killer whales are some sort of vigilante justice on part of the beasts.
When you play with fire you get burned.
Lord Gonchar said:
I'd let them both drown for fear of falling in myself.
Couldn't you just walk over and rescue them both? ;)
jonnytips said:
Sigh. I wish there were a rational alternative to PETA, which is pro-animal rights, and not pro-idiot.Random ex: lab testing to create medication/cures is totally fine, but lab testing just to create the 10000th scent of cologne isn't really necessary; having 10000 cologne scents isn't needed.
I can understand that the super emotionally charged members of PETA comparing SeaWorld to slavery, but the fact that these people also make corporate decisions and create lawsuits which will likely go nowhere makes me extremely depressed; I'd like to hope it's not representative of the majority of it's members, but I have a feeling I may be wrong.
I'm a proud, card carrying member of PETA for the past 46 years. I'm a firm believer in animal rights..
Deer do have the right to cross the interstate. If they get nailed by a car, our economy grows as body shops get more business.
The rights of cows to become a cheeseburger (Considered by many in PEA to be one stop shopping), a pig to become bacon and pork chops, and chicken.. well, gotta have some variety..
A proud member of People Eating Tasty Animals
Just another Mike..
I would only rescue the dog over the stranger if it was MY dog.
The Sea World wales are probably happy. It's kind of like the world that has been created for us to work in. We are slaves to the world, in my opinion anyways, and we are happy.
(Don't worry. I didn't link to the real video. lol)
-Travis
www.youtube.com/TSVisits
I admit I haven't had a dog since I was in high school. But, I loved that dog. That said, I can't imagine it would even be an internal struggle for me. No way I could watch a human drown while saving my dog.
I could, but that's because I know how people are. I rescue my/a dog, it licks my face and wags its tail.
I rescue a person, I get slapped with a lawsuit for dislocating their shoulder while pulling them from the ice.
Nice!
PETA isn't stupid as some here may imply. They didn't file the lawsuit with the intention of winning. It's a publicity stunt that as far as I can tell is a home run. And speaking of home runs, go Cardinals!
janfrederick said:
They didn't file the lawsuit with the intention of winning. It's a publicity stunt that as far as I can tell is a home run.
Precisely.
The problem is that so much of what they do is just over-the-top attention grabbing. They're a joke.
You would rescue the dog over the person? Remind me not to go ice skating with you.
But that's exactly how most people (if they are honest) answer. There are a lot of reasons, but one heart-string that PETA loves to pull on is the Disneyfication of animals. We grow up seeing animals going to animal schools, and holding animal jobs, and constantly look at their lives through our own lens. Of course, being cruel for the sake of being cruel is bad, but applying human value on an animal? That's seriously twisted...but that's where we are.
By saving the dog, you are saying the dog's life is more valuable than the stranger. That's someone's dad...mom...brother...etc...but, this is why we call China "cruel" for eating dog, as if there is some qualitative difference between eating a dog and eating a cow, or a horse, or a cat.
Little known fact about everyone's favorite: the cute, ever-so-smart dolphin. Know how they treat their women?
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