Perilous Plunge restraint news

Thursday, May 9, 2002 4:38 PM

I just saw a short report on NBC 4 about a possible restraint system for Perilous Plunge. Knott's is going to propose a 4-point restraint system with two shoulder straps. They also mentioned briefly that a u-shaped shoulder restraint is possible also, but I got the impression that Knott's will try to go ahead with the 4-point system first.

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Karl
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:03 PM
I also heared about them adding a weight restriction to the ride.

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:06 PM
Contribute this to the news section if there is an article online where you can read it.

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Roller Coasters or sports? I guess there are questions nobody can answer!

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:06 PM
by 4-point restraint sysem, do they mean a butterfly restraint (like X), or a shoulder seatbelt (like racecars)?
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:09 PM

They showed shoulder seatbelts.

I would have contributed a news item but there is no corresponding article on NBC's website.

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Karl
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:11 PM

Speedy said:
by 4-point restraint sysem, do they mean a butterfly restraint (like X), or a shoulder seatbelt (like racecars)?


That is a good question. I am not sure what the 4 point system is, but if it is one of those system restraint that goes over your shoulders then i don't like it...

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:11 PM
all i can find is info. on knotts auctioning off xcelerators first 40 rides.
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 5:13 PM
if they add shoulder seatbelts they better be water proof, unlike many rapid rides.
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 6:03 PM
The 4-point restraints sounds similar to the ones that were used on VertiGone.

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 6:21 PM
What they need is a girth limit, not a weight limit. 6'5" 300 pounds is fine, 5'2" 300 pounds is not.
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 6:29 PM

The existing system would work just fine, and is proven with millions of rides on the various coasters. You just have to limit the size of the person... that's the fix.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 6:39 PM
I hope it could be that simple, as that is pretty much the truth. Thousands of riders fit just fine, and had safe rides on the Plunge with those restraints. But the hard part is saying that to the state, which pretty much has the final say...

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*** This post was edited by CoasterFanMatt on 5/9/2002. ***

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 7:19 PM

Jeff said:

The existing system would work just fine, and is proven with millions of rides on the various coasters. You just have to limit the size of the person... that's the fix.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"


Problem with that is, that Knotts could get sued for discrimination. I really wish that soom people realize that not everything is made for themselves.

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*** This post was edited by Apollo16 on 5/9/2002. ***

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 7:42 PM

Apollo16 said:
"Problem with that is, that Knotts could get sued for discrimination. I really wish that soom people realize that not everything is made for themselves. "

shorter people don't get to go on rides very much... when was the last time they sued?

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 7:57 PM
I'm glad I don't live in California.
I don't know much about Plunge, but if there is any truth to the story, it sure sounds like (a) they are trying to hurt people and (b) they don't seem to understand the basic problem that seat belts and water rides are not a very workable combination.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 8:33 PM

Did you just say that Knotts is trying to hurt people??

Anyway, Perilous Plunge should not have any problem with seatbelts. It hasn't yet. There isn't even any water on the ride until the splashdown pool. At that point, its on a secured track. The only freefloating area of the ride (where you would worry about a capsize) is a short turn into the station.

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Thursday, May 9, 2002 9:31 PM
I do not think that Knott's is seriously worried about a discrimination lawsuit. The ADA only requires reasonable accomodation, not that everything is made for everybody. And that is only if an obese person were to try to classify their obesity as a disability. Knott's is probably more worried about the PR of turning away overweight people, but not the lawsuit.
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Thursday, May 9, 2002 9:52 PM

Karl DeAngelo said:

I just saw a short report on NBC 4 about a possible restraint system for Perilous Plunge. Knott's is going to propose a 4-point restraint system with two shoulder straps. They also mentioned briefly that a u-shaped shoulder restraint is possible also, but I got the impression that Knott's will try to go ahead with the 4-point system first.

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Karl
http://www.twistedrails.com



Until I see a link these is just a false rumor.

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Friday, May 10, 2002 5:05 AM

Problem with that is, that Knotts could get sued for discrimination.


Discrimination for what? Will Cedar Point be sued because Wicked Twister can't fit tall or broad shouldered people? Would any get park get sued because they can't accomodate a 300-pound person? Or because they won't allow someone under a certain height to ride? I don't think so.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

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Friday, May 10, 2002 6:00 AM
Jeff, this is California. People will file a lawsuit at the drop of a hat, if they can't get their way.
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