Perilous Plunge reopens at Knott's with new restraints

Posted Monday, June 3, 2002 4:38 AM | Contributed by CoasterFanMatt

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Monday, June 3, 2002 10:20 AM

What the restraints do is ensure a size restriction on the ride. This is a good thing becuase the decision to retrofit the ride was prompted by the death of an obese man who was ejected and killed while improperly restrainted on this rather extreme water ride. Unforutnately for those who can fit in the restraints the four point harnesses are completely uncessary. Does anybody follow this logic?

So what we have mandated here is a size restriction by default not good common sense. Thanky you liberals. You're making my life so much more pleasurable by taking all the danger out of it. Very soon I won't have anything to fear and what a wonderful day that will be. Whoo hoo.

Jerks. :P

Monday, June 3, 2002 12:40 PM

You know... I am the last person in the world to defend "liberals" (or "leftists" or "socialists" as I like to call them)...


This is NOT a political argument. Fact of the matter is, a person was ejected and killed on this ride. "Fear" and "anxiety" on a ride is one thing... fear of death and rides that eject riders are another. We can assume that the rider (regardless of size) fit into the restraints to the specifications of the manufacturer and to the satisfaction of the ride ops, but was ejected anyway. So either one of two things were in play 1) the ride ops let a rider go with a restraint that was not properly in use (in other words, the park is at fault), or 2) the restraints that allowed this rider to be properly restrained by the specs still let the rider be ejected (in other words, the restraints were not adequate).

Bottom line... the former restraints were not adequate... therefore you now have new and more secure restraints.

"I wasn't always this cynical, but then I started kindergarden..."

Monday, June 3, 2002 1:07 PM
No, that woman should not have been allowed in the first place. The ride operators should have taken note of the fact that her lapbar was over her fat flab of stomach instead of above her thighs like they should on a non obese person. Intamin AG President Sandor Kernacs said that the modifications were not recommended by the design firm and that if those harnesses are installed, it could only increase chance of injury to future riders. But Knott's thought otherwise...but, the state mandated changes, so what can you do? It's a no-win situation...

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Monday, June 3, 2002 1:29 PM
The restraints were proper and worked properly. The park let a person on the ride who was too fat to ride it safely!!
Monday, June 3, 2002 1:32 PM

"President Sandor Kernacs said that the modifications were not recommended by the design firm and that if those harnesses are installed, it could only increase chance of injury to future riders."

Maybe it will take a death to finally convince politicians to not interfere with things that are fine the way they are.


Monday, June 3, 2002 8:32 PM
hey, when did Coasterbuzz become a forum for political debate? Feel free to disagree, but keep your political labels (or any other labels for that matter) to yourself.


Tuesday, June 4, 2002 5:17 AM

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People think I'm a flaming "liberal" because, in the minds of many people, anyone "centric" is just as "bad."

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Tuesday, June 4, 2002 3:21 PM

When you have politicians making amusement park rides an opportunity to grandstand, its kind of hard not to turn it into a political discussion.

In the case of California, I think they required too much in the way of restraint on P. Plunge. I would tend to agree with Intamin, but that does not let the state expand its power a little more. And to the state, that's what it's all about!

Tuesday, June 4, 2002 7:38 PM
Dude I rode the ride about ten times before. The restraints that it had was more than enough. I think the lady wasnt properly fastening the seat belts. I've seen bigger people who weighs more than she did go through the ride. So its the parks fault for not making sure she was properly fastened in her seat belts.
Tuesday, June 4, 2002 8:19 PM
Well at least its opened. I think think the lap bars were all that it needed. I can't wait to ride it this summer!

"I took the highway to the danger zone"


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