Patent from B&M...

Yes the cars spins 90 degrees in station,,,

Quote: so that, when the train runs the circuit, the passenger is suspended under the rails with his back nonperpendicular to the the way made up by rails,

Quote2:

4.Installation according to one of the preceding claims, including a station of loading and unloading passengers, characterized in it in what in the station the plan of the way consisted the rails transversely forms an angle (alpha) compared to the horizontal one, this angle being selected so that, after the aforementioned second part of the vehicle carried out a rotation of approximately 90 DEG on itself, the plan of the back of the passengers is in appreciably vertical position.

Isn't it annoying that they can't split up the looooong sentences...

The patent explains that the cars are not attached t the rails directly and that they can make a full revolution, it's not a B&M flyer if you read the info thoroughly.

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Why didn't they just say the cars can spin dang it! :) I am way too unintelligent to figure out what the heck they're talking aboot.

Can anyone dumb it down a little more, please?

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There's 9 pages of info, if you explore deeply. Including a total of 5 pictures. (Edited)

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*** This post was edited by Joe Carroll on 5/17/2002. ***

If you do a search and look for both Bolliger and Mabillard they have one in english. Also that sure looks like a new coaster design. It would appear to be a 4d type coaster. Just think you could be in flying position flip over now on your back then go trough a helix turn with the car turned you could be in a standing position. The ride positions are limitless. It looks like a flying car but one that could rotate around you could ride in any direction. Could that be the new IOA coaster soon to be announced. Also when you do the search for other patents. It would appear they have recently reapplied for several other patents. They include a hyper style car and a floorless. Do a search on the website that started the tread. Lots of cool info.

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I translated a lot of the descrpition on that site, and there was some very interesting stuff in it, I think B&M are planning a 4D style coaster or something like that, well anyway, read this quotes and make your own judgement

0005] In the category of the roller coasters suspended, an under very appreciated category is the one of the roller coasters that present the characteristic of do not to have or partition or floor around the fleeting ones. Such a roller coaster is described in the European patent no EP 0545860. In this roller coaster, the fleeting ones are sat in suspended seats to the bogies, the perpendicular back to the way constituted by the rails.

[0006] In a diverted form of this type of roller coaster suspended, the fleeting ones effectuate traverses it alongside the circuit, the noticeably willing back alongside the way constituted by the rails. In this installation form, the fleeting ones do not see the rails and seen for them is not obstructed by the other vehicles. They have thus in a way the impression to fly. Of such installations notably are described in the American patent no US 5,979,333 and in the publications of requests of international patents our WO 99/22829 and WO 99/22830. In order to be able to embark and land easily the fleeting ones, the seats of these installations are arranged in a manner to be able to tip of a first position, at the time of the embarquement or débarquement, in which one the fleeting ones have the noticeably willing back perpendicular to the way, to a second position, that they preserve all alongside the traverses, and in which one fleeting lesdits have the willing noticeably back alongside. These installations necessitate thus comparatively heavy mechanisms for the swing of the seats, the vérins desdits mechanisms being subjected to important efforts.

0007] The goal of the presents invention is to propose a roller coaster suspended in which one the fleeting ones can effectuate the traverses alongside the circuit with the noticeably willing back alongside the way, but of conception simpler, the necessary mechanisms for the embarquement and the débarquement of the fleeting ones being less heavy to realize.

[0008] HAS this effect, the presents invention concerns an installation for park of said attractions roller coaster, behaving a formed circuit of rails the long of which ones circulates at least a vehicle behaving a first party mated with the rails in a manner to be able to move itself alongside the circuit and a left second, climbed in movable linking on the first party and arranged in a manner to be able to welcomeat least a seat, forming file and seated, associated with a withholding device of the fleeting one in the seat, in a manner that, when the vehicle traverses the circuit, the fleeting one finds suspended itself under the rails with the plan of his non perpendicular backs to the plan of the way constituted by the rails, ladite installation being characterized in this that the linking of ladite second left theAllows ladite second left to effectuate a rotation on itself around a perpendicular noticeably axis to the plan of the file of the seat.

[0009] The presents invention concerns equally a vehicle for installation of said attractions roller coaster, the aforementioned vehicle understanding a first party consisting of of the means of linking of the vehicle to the rails of the installation, in a manner to allow the vehicle to move itself alongside the circuit, and a left second, climbed in movable linking on the first party and arranged in a manner to be able to welcomeForming file and seated, associated with a withholding device of the fleeting one in the seat, and characterized in this that the linking of ladite second left for first left ladite allows ladite second left to effectuate a rotation on itself around a noticeably perpendicular axis to the plan of the file of the seat.

[0010] one of the principal characteristiies of the vehicles of this installation resides in this that the swing of the support of the fleeting one of a perpendicular noticeably position to the way to a noticeably parallel position to the necessary way in the described installations above, is replaced by a simple mechanism of rotation dudit support on himself around a noticeably perpendicular axis to the plan of the seat.

It definatly sounds like a 4D Coaster to me, or its a coaster where the seats are facing out to the sides instad of facing forward and you spin sideways, whatever it is, it sounds very interesting indeed.

Incidently, there was a strong rumour that B&M were planning something Big for 2003 in the terms of a prone coaster for an american Park, Could this be it???We can only Wait and See.

just a little assistance for those without a good Acrobat reader....go here, and enjoy:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html

WOW ! This patent search site is awesome !

Check out Werner Stengel's new "freefall" idea...a LIM shuttle:
http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=EP1184062&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD (look at the drawings).
Not too exciting or different than anything else, but still cool.

Universal Studios apparently have a "space pod" themed coaster in the works:
http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US6220171&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD

Here's a strange Suspended design, where the seats flip - think X with the seats under the track, instead of on the sides:
http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US6158354&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD

There's tons more...some old, some new, some strange... I've already been searching for over an hour.
Time to let someone else do some digging.

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Current favorite coasters:
Wooden: 1) Beast 2) Raven 3) Son of Beast 4) The Boss 5) Timber Wolf
Steel: 1) Raging Bull 2) Millennium Force 3) V2 4) Wild Thing 5) Mr. Freeze
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*** This post was edited by Joe Carroll on 5/17/2002. ***

The Universal coaster is very interesting. We've had some topics made about it before, apparently it was originally made for an Apollo 13 themed ride. Now it is starting look like it will be the new Mummy themed coaster that will replace Kong...

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Yeah i did find some nice patents last night and the Werner Stengel patent looks pretty cool. I think when the train goes up it'll be held there for some sec while the tower rotates. Then you go down on another track.

Cool, now i downloaded Acrobat Reader and i can see it now. It's basically like a flying coaster

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Roller Coasters or sports? I guess there are questions nobody can answer!

actually, that isnt a suspended 4D, the cars are on top of the track. lean your head to the left and you can see it clearer. this is the link in case you were wondering what the hell i am on about:

http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US6158354&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD

Could someone PLEASE post a picture of all these drawings? I go to those link, and click drawings, but nothing ever comes up. What am I doing wrong?

I see how it works!!!The track is tilted side ways and then it goes up the lift but before the lift, the track rotates 90 degrees tand the cars spinw ith it then yr on yr back/stomach.

Pretty smart B&M!

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At least I dont call a vertical loop a "loopdie-loop"!

CoasterKrazy, just a guess, but I'm thinking you either have no Acrobat reader r an old version....go to my previous post and d/l a new version of Reader, you should be fine.....

Anyone able to figure out how the cars rotate? Is it 4d Style with another set of rails?

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AC?, RB?, MF?, DD?, PR? Who can keep track of it all?

You know, this is B&Ms elaboration on the 4D IMO. Think about it, you can now spin sideways, never before done on a 4D. Also, you can do forward flips and backward flips. One of my friends showed me how that would work. Think about it, if your back was against the track like that and it did an inline, you do a forward or backward flip depending on which way the inline turns. Its sounds incredibly awesome to me and I cant wait to see one of these actually built.

it's a suspended, prone coaster, i.e. the cars will be like prone, only swinging. the way it is designed, it looks like a conversion for a current invert. no. wait. that's completely wrong. right-o.

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*** This post was edited by phydeux on 5/18/2002. ***