Paramount and Six Flags in Cahoots?

Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:44 PM
I need this to be addressed, what would you do if you heard the six flags dancing guy song at Kings Island last friday.

Does this mean that someone that owns these parks in some way shape or form has rights to both of them. Or do you think it is a coincidence.

I just think that is strange, and if you look on six flags' website it has rights to hanna-barbera listed there. So what goes clarify this for me please!

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:54 PM
The 'six flags dancing guy song' is music from the Vengaboys song "We Like to Party", so no cahoots there.

No coincidence, really, either. PKI can play music the wish, but SFI uses that song in their commercials.

As for Hanna-Barbera, Warner Bros. now has the rights to those characters. If I'm not mistake, TAFT, the company that built PKI & PKD and bought the rest, were the owners of H-B. That company ( I guess ) is no more, and they sold the parks to others, which ended up in Paramount's hands, and H-B ended up at Warner Bros., who, coincedentally, sold SFI as well.

Both companies have licensing deals with Warner for H-B (I'd assume since the Paramount Parks had them pre-Paramount, it was easy to keep them at the park), but now that Paramount has Nick, and is starting to re-theme things to Nick from H-B, I'd say the only attractions in a Paramount Park you'll see with H-B is Scooby...For at least a good while anyhow...Till the next Sally re-theme ;).

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:54 PM
OMG... Cedar Point has one of them frisbee thingies! They must be in cahoots with Paramount!

I just heard, but you didn't hear it from me, that the first Kill Bill movie and Vonage commercials are in cahoots because they both have that Woo Hoo song in it by the 7-8-9s. But, like I said, you didn't hear that from me.

[Edit: Hasn't Paramount (well, Viacom, actually) always had Nick? How long as Viacom had Paramount? Actually... Nick used to be called "an MTV network" but was MTV owned by Viacom back then? Logic train derails here...]

*** Edited 5/27/2005 3:56:53 AM UTC by Michael Darling***

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:58 PM
Actually, John, the song isn't by the 6s-7s-8s & 9s, they re-did it ;). Not that I'm a big geek and just know that, I happened to hear the original on XM not too aweful long ago.

But don't think I don't agree with you or anything. ;)

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:58 PM
It may be an odd choice for Paramount but that Vengaboys song was popular long before Six Flags started using it in their commercials. As long as Paramount pays the appropriate PRO (music playing rights) it can play it as many times as it pleases.

Six Flags owns the rights to the Mr. Six character and perhaps they may own the licensing rights to We Like to Party for ads but NOT from general airplay.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 12:02 AM
John, as far as I know, Viacom has always owned MTV, Nick, and Paramount, and both MTV and Nick, if I'm not mistaken, are currently under Paramount. Don't know if it was always that way, but all 3 have always been under the same parent company, for as long as I can remember, which is quite a long time, since I'm older than both MTV and Nick.
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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:14 AM
You're right. The 5-6-7-8s (double checked the name) *did* in fact redo the song. Check out the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Hoo

Being older than MTV and Nick doesn't mean you HAVE to remember it, though. Do you remember things that happened when you were two years old? Maybe, maybe not. I'm older than MTV by 2 years, but I don't remember its launch. As for Nickelodeon... it was launched in 1979 as Pinwheel and renamed in 1981 (more Wikipedia), so... I forgot my point now.

By the way, XM is far inferrior to Sirius, which is where I heard the new Woo Hoo the other day.

Back to the ViacamountelodeonTV, issue... I believe that all of the TV networks are currently under the parent company of Viacom and Paramount Parks is under Nickelodeon, but Paramount (the movie studio) is under Viacom. I don't think anything is actually under Paramount at this time, but I could be totally wrong.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:19 AM
Meh, like I said in the other thread, I don't like Howard Stern, Martha Stewart, nor Eminim, so I'll stick with XM ;).

I don't know where I came up with all those numbers, I was saying 5-6-7-8s in my head, I guess I typed the wrong ones?

Regardless, I love that song, and those chicks are hot.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:22 AM
-sigh- What an IDIOT I am.

All I had to do was read on a bit in the Wikipedia article to find out the history of Nickelodeon. It's still an "MTV network" and MTV Networks is still a division of Viacom. Why I didn't just think to look in the article I linked to, I'll never know...

[Edit: Hot? Maybe... in that young grandmother kind of way. ;)]

*** Edited 5/27/2005 6:25:03 AM UTC by Michael Darling***

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:37 AM
Did I just coin the term GILF? *** Edited 5/27/2005 10:34:18 AM UTC by TeknoScorpion***
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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:40 AM
God, I Like Fritos? Yes.
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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:42 AM
I was thinking more of 'Gosh, I like Fajitas', but okay.
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Friday, May 27, 2005 3:28 AM
5 6 7 8's were an awesome live act- neat to hear some other buzzers dig 'em too-

Incahoots opened in which park? Country bars and amusement parks, great combination! ;-)

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Friday, May 27, 2005 3:52 AM

TeknoScorpion said:
John, as far as I know, Viacom has always owned MTV, Nick, and Paramount, and both MTV and Nick, if I'm not mistaken, are currently under Paramount.

Paramount Communications (Paramount Pictures, MTV Networks, CBS, etc) was originally owned by Gulf Western Industries. Viacom and Gulf Western merged in 1994. ;)

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Friday, May 27, 2005 3:57 AM
I was half right, then ;).
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Friday, May 27, 2005 10:00 AM
Here's a lesson in the music business.

Neither Six Flags nor Paramount probably own the rights to the song. The rights belong to some publishing company somewhere. Six Flags payed the publishing company a pretty penny to use the music for it's national ad campaign because they are using it for profit and on television. On the other hand, Paramount isn't using it on a commercial or for a specific ride. They use it as ambience music...just like restaurants like Applebees and Fridays use popular music. Kings Island being a business just like those places are, they probably don't have to pay a penny for playing the song as long as a copy was legally purchased. It's as simple as a satelitte radio subscription or a playlist on a computer fed through the park's PA. It could be different, but I doubt it.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 12:08 PM

Dukeis#1 said:

TeknoScorpion said:
John, as far as I know, Viacom has always owned MTV, Nick, and Paramount, and both MTV and Nick, if I'm not mistaken, are currently under Paramount.

Paramount Communications (Paramount Pictures, MTV Networks, CBS, etc) was originally owned by Gulf Western Industries. Viacom and Gulf Western merged in 1994.


MTV was started (and thus owned by) Time Warner at the beginning. MTV was started by a young TW executive named Bob Pittman, who later led the Six Flags chain after TW acquired it in the early 90s. TW sold MTV to Viacom in the mid-80s...

Viacom owned MTV and its associated networks prior to the acquisition of Gulf+Western (Paramount's owner) in the mid-90s ('94?). CBS was acquired after than...

Joel

*** Edited 5/27/2005 4:12:06 PM UTC by JZarley*** *** Edited 5/27/2005 4:13:12 PM UTC by JZarley***

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Friday, May 27, 2005 4:02 PM
Oh, well that ties everything together than about how MTV got pulled in. (I had assumed it had always been part of Paramount. Kind of surprising that Time Warner owned it in the beggining) So, does that mean Warner controlled Nickelodeon for a while as well?
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Friday, May 27, 2005 4:24 PM
Legal is one thing, but if people are going to hear that song and think of Six Flags/Mr. Six, I wouldn't think it such a good choice of music at a Paramount park. Unless they think, "Thank God I'm not at a Six Flags park with that little troll."
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Friday, May 27, 2005 5:13 PM

TeknoScorpion said:
Did I just coin the term GILF?

Since you hate him, I hate to tell you this, but no, Howard Stern possibly coined that about two weeks ago. Either that or someone else coined it and he copied it, was part of a denied bit ;)

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