Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:52 PM
After around a month or so of deliberation, a final statement will be announced tonight at 7:30pm EST in downtown Erie.
Everyone knows the Nelson vs. Candela story... so there is no need repeating it...
If you do not know the story, do a search for Waldameer, or Ravine Flyer.
I hope the outcome is what I have heard it will be... ;)
Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:40 PM
Is this final, final or just final?
Chuck, who wants this coaster built :)
Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:46 PM
There's never gonna be a final final.
The couple next door who own the campground are going to kick, scream, whine, and cry (ie: appeal) any decision that goes in favor of Paul Nelson & Waldameer Park until they get the city of Erie, PA to say something to the extent of "Mr. Nelson, you cannot ever build your wooden coaster here in this fine city, because these 2 people disagree with the rest of the city, and if they say no, then it's a no!"
Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:56 PM
This, was said to be, the final ruling. This ruling is granting, or not granting the permit to Waldameer. If they grant the permit, the coaster is coming for either 2005 or 2006.
Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:04 PM
So what's the verdict? My fingers are crossed like the rest of your's....
Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:14 AM
The variance was passed tonight. The ruling is the *bluff* is really a slope! Waldameer must meet 18 conditions to satisfy Millcreek Zoning Board.
So assuming the park meets those conditions the project is a "go" although I expect the Candelas to appeal.
Details should be at www.goerie.com Thurs morn.
Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:07 AM
Hey, at least thats on hill they're over (Pun intended) :)
Now I may be an idiot, but there is one thing I am not, sir, and that sir, is an idiot. ~ Peter Griffin
Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:45 AM
If anyone that owns a business especially a tourism related business is complaining about this coaster...then they need to just close up their shop and quit. Why would you be against this coaster if you owned any type of business? What the park has does not bring in the massload of people. If this coaster gets built then it could bring a lot more tourists to the area.
Sometimes you just gotta wonder what people are actually thinking.
Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:51 AM
Finally... after how many years, they finally got their variance, I love it...
It was said on the local news in Erie, this morning, that the ruling is final, and the board will not allow an appeal to the ruling, due to the Candela's appealing almost every ruling they have made against the RF2 so far... I don't know if this is true, but lets hope so! :) *** Edited 4/29/2004 10:53:22 AM UTC by Rctycoon2k***
Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:14 AM
Here's the official story: (hope the link works)
Park OK's Ravine Flyer II
In case you don't want to read it...
This is a small sample of some of the variances that they need:
The amusement park, among other things, must get a $15 million liability insurance policy for the ride, hold Millcreek harmless for any accidents related to the ride, plant a strip of pine trees to shield the ride from Waldameer's neighbors, and keep as many trees as possible along the coaster's path.
Looks like a definate go, but not for next season. Looks like it's going to take a couple years to erect the steel & wood structure.
This is the shot in the arm Erie needs. It's unfortunate it's going to take so long to build.
*** Edited 4/29/2004 11:18:47 AM UTC by DawgByte II***
Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:01 PM
Being in the Erie area, and accustomed to Waldameer, I think that the treeline idea is great. It should only help the popularity of the ride.
Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:39 PM
Don't wait for the RFII- get there now and try out the spinning mouse from Maurer Sohne!! I rode the one at Lagoon last summer and it is an excellent
ride! We loved it and rode it many times. A lot more fun than the Reverchon version.
Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:47 PM
It's about dang time the thing got approved, I'd like to see who Waldameer will contact to build this ride now, since Ravine Flyer II years ago was supposed to be a CCI, but you know what happened to them....
I don't care what company builds it or when it will open, I'm just glad after all of these years RFII will be a reality!
-Josh Linn, Phoenix Whore
2003 Phoenix Rides: 51
2004 Phoenix Rides: 17
2005 Phoenix Rides: 6
Friday, April 30, 2004 3:39 PM
The last time I talked to Paul, he said he was looking into Gravity Group, because its basically the same staff he had planned the coaster with, but he said he still would "explore the options that were available to him".
Sunday, May 2, 2004 5:31 PM
Well, my friends, after 30 minutes of going through my backup cd's, I found the layout I had scanned...
There you go.