Orca holds trainer underwater at SeaWorld SanDiego

Posted Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:06 AM | Contributed by dragonoffrost

Shamu the killer whale injured a trainer during a show at SeaWorld Adventure Park by grabbing his foot and pulling him underwater twice, authorities said. The 39-year-old man was hospitalized in good condition after Wednesday's show, said Mike Scarpuzzi, a park official. Scarpuzzi, who oversees zoological operations, said he did not know the extent of the trainer's injuries.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:16 AM
According to the article, it wasn't Shamu. It was another whale at Shamu stadium. Does SW still call all their whales Shamu, no matter what the name of the whale actually is?
Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:35 AM
Shamu is a stage name... or perhaps better stated a character name in the show... (eg 'George and Gracie' playing the part of Shamu and Mamu in Believe)

Forgive the Star Trek reference.

Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:36 AM
rollergator's avatar Based on the incident at Orlando's SeaWorld, I'm thinking this is similar in that it was more "rough play" than an ATTACK. If you're in the water and an orca wants you dead, you're a goner...

Pretty sure Shamu is more of a generic name, almost like a "brand"...it's what you call any orca when you haven't been properly introduced... :)

Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:29 PM
Jeff's avatar Agreed. I was at lunch and saw CNN drilling it to death, and I think it's a non-story, personally. Animals play and don't realize they can harm people. The big headline "KILLER WHALE ATTACKS" is pretty stupid.
Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:01 PM
Yes the name of the whale has changed since the original posted article on Yahoo. So it probably was either the original writer just used Shamu generally or the character name thing mentioned above.
Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:02 PM
I like how in the video they go by KILLER WHALE.

Jeff is right, animals don't realize what they're doing.

Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:29 PM
This is why Six Flags Marine World doesn't have trainers in the tank with Shouka on a regular basis. They say she is fairly aggressive for even an orca and I assume they want to avoid accidents like this.
Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:18 PM
Ok about the name.

All whales are named Shamu

Have you ever noticed that everywhere but Marine World they have a whale named Shamu

Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:25 PM
Yeah, while the whales are all called Shamu on stage, they do have names of their own.
Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:29 PM
Yea they do have names of there own. Shamu is a Stage name. I believe there are 7 Shamu's in the CA park.
Friday, December 1, 2006 9:30 AM
Training or not, a whale is a whale. I don't think you can train a whale, no matter how much you try, to behave like a dog. It's big, strong and humans go into its territory.

maybe the headline should've read: Another stupid human tempts fate with Killer Whale!

Friday, December 1, 2006 10:04 AM
Jeff's avatar Well seeing as how they have repeatable behaviors that they can perform when asked by humans, I'd say that you can train whales.
Friday, December 1, 2006 10:17 AM
rollergator's avatar "Trained", not "tamed"... ;)
Friday, December 1, 2006 11:09 AM
Jeff: I see. So maybe the trainer made the whale hold them underwater by some learned command. Hmmm, free advertising at its finest.

Trained not tamed is right.

Friday, December 1, 2006 11:38 AM
janfrederick's avatar I think Jeff is correct about this being a non-issue. Sham-ette is back performing today: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15986167/

Anyway, my dog nips my ankles once in a while when he gets excited. I'm just glad he doesn't weigh several tons.

*** This post was edited by janfrederick 12/1/2006 11:53:56 AM ***

Friday, December 1, 2006 3:01 PM
Personally I think that the whale was just playing....like said above if the whale wanted him dead then he would have been dead. They are the most adapt hunters of the sea. Or he might of just been having a bad day.
Friday, December 1, 2006 4:49 PM
Got a 2 and a half year old who loves Shamu. He plays with toy Shamu in the tub all the time. He saw the news last night...and combined with our recent hyping of our Orlando trip in a few weeks...he has convinced himself that he is going to swim/play with Shamu. When I explained to him that we only "watch" Shamu he started crying out-of control for over an hour last night. Anyhow, I've got to figure a way to convince a 2 and half year old that we cannot swim and play with Shamu.
Friday, December 1, 2006 4:52 PM
rollergator's avatar ^ Autopsy pics of the Orlando "swim with Shamu" session?

I'm KIDDING....geez, so serious you people are.. ;)

Monday, December 4, 2006 10:19 AM
janfrederick's avatar Or a nature video showing how wild Orcas sometimes like to *play* with their food. Perhaps you could get him to switch to dolphins. At least there's the possibility that he could swim with them one day.

Speaking of which, next time you are in SoCal, take the boat to Catalina and watch them playing off the bow.


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