Orange County Sheriff adds mounted patrols to Disney Springs

Actually there are plenty of off duty cops that do these types of jobs. How am I the only one called out for being arguement here? #whitepeopleproblems

Because, again, you take two unrelated things to make an unclear point about... something. Don't be a victim.

Victim? I'm not the one claiming my rights are being taken away by a metal detector or minimum in wage employee.

GoBucks89 said:
Metal detectors slow the admission process

And this, as I've said all along, is the root of the problem that people on here seem to really have. It's not about being violated, it's not about the ineffectiveness or minimum wage. It's all about delaying your admission time.

Amen. But we're the ones playing victim.

I don't think people are viewing the issue in a vacuum. Pair the metal detectors with actual and real benefit (beyond theater) and I think you would find far fewer people objecting to them even with the slower admissions process.

In terms of the victim card, I don't really recall anyone saying laws should be passed to block the metal detectors, calling for boycotts of the Orlando parks, etc. (though I believe one person said he/she might reconsider visits if detectors result in law lines to get into the parks but that just falls into a cost/benefit analysis that everyone undertakes with pretty much everything they do). Just a hassle with little if any benefits. And no doubt its first world problems.

Thabto said:

The cop on the horse isn't waving a wand in my personal space.

The cop might not wand you but look out if the horse decides he wants to show you his wand.

Tekwardo said:

And wait till you're in a position where a police officer pats you down as opposed to a security wander. They're far less nice about it.

With far more reason to be patting me down.

Uh, what? I'm not the one with the problem with metal detectors.

My point is very clear. The underlying issue is that some park enthusiasts don't want their admission process slowed down, but they are not bothered enough by it to stop going to places that perform these checks. It's another reason to complain, then it gets repeated and we wind up talking in circles about it.

So, I should just quit going to parks that I enjoy. Just because they implement some stupid procedure doesn't mean I have to like it.

Well, unless you and a bunch of other people do stop going because of [insert issue here] then nothing will ever change. Price hikes, metal detectors, ride removal... whatever the topic du jour is. People moan and complain, but then keep going back and forking over their money, and that's why it will continue to occur.

I have given feedback to Cedar Point on the issue. Whether it will do any good or not remains to be seen.

Great, you have feedback. You can talk all day about how you're completely dissatisfied with the procedure, and how it angers you to be wanded - yet they see your season pass number being used 3 times in the next week - they know you'll keep coming back.

It's the same as the people who complain about chick-fil-a and their religious antics, but they walk through the door for a chicken sandwich every Saturday because they enjoy it.

It obviously doesn't bother you in the way that you're saying it does, because it doesn't bother you enough to stop going.

slithernoggin said:

Tekwardo said:

And wait till you're in a position where a police officer pats you down as opposed to a security wander. They're far less nice about it.

With far more reason to be patting me down.

Ask any racially profiled African American about that and see what they have to say...

All I'm saying: when I was face down on the hood of a cruiser, the police had a reason to have put me there.

And again, there are a lot of African American, Muslim, and Hispanic people who've had that happen simply because they weren't white. Just because you had a reason doesn't mean everyone does. And it doesn't take away from the fact that it's interesting that the people complaining about metal detectors aren't complaining about more and different types of security theater.

It's just that a mounted officer has a pretty horse and isn't making your wait to get in longer.

Mounted police officers combine mobility with an elevated viewpoint, making them an important part of an overall crowd management plan. They're in a position to respond quickly to developing incidents.

You forgot to play the gay and handicapped cards while you were busy playing the race and religion cards.

If you've been to New Orleans (Nawlins) during one of the many busy times - then you know what an advantage it can be for security to have the elevation of a horse. Also, people tend to give you a little clearance when you're on top of a fairly massive animal...

Show some actual information that says that gay and handicapped People are consistently having their rights violated by police officers as much as racial and religious minorities.

The issue here is why is this type of security theater, that was implemented posdibly in response to an old man who had a tantrum any less security theater than metal detectors.

You implied that police doing searches were doing it with justification in response to me saying that an officer isn't going to be as nice about it as a minimum wage wander. I pointed out that that is a fallacy. Ask the many many minorities (all minorities, I'll play the minority card here) that have been harassed by an officer without cause.

So if security theater is without cause, then why is this type more justified? Because you personally think metal detectors don't work and don't like them.

okay, fine. What about minorities that don't like this because they've been treated poorly by an officer and now there are all of a sudden mounted police at Disney World.

My point is that it's unfair to say one thing is taking away your rights (when it isn't) but something similar isn't taking away your rights.

Jeez mama, take it down a couple octaves :-) I am not getting the reason behind this argument. How is a cop on a horse taking away your rights? I appreciate you always stirring the pot - makes for interesting discussions. This one is a bit of a stretch however.