No charges will be filed in HW incident.

Saturday, September 27, 2003 8:31 PM
The final report is in from the prosecutors. Click here and here for information.

What kind of disturbs me is that Tamar Fellner's fiance never cooperated in the investigation. I know he is going through tough times but you would think he would help out in some way.

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Saturday, September 27, 2003 10:21 PM
Glad to see no charges were filed. Her fiance was probably instructed by the families lawyers not to say anything as to not inhibit a possible future lawsuit.
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Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:05 AM
I should hope so: from these two reports it is clear that the conclusion that has been settled on by the authorities is that the cause of the accident was rider misconduct.

This was a needless and tragic accident, a waste of a young life and a truly horrible experience for the park's employees and patrons. We can only hope that some good will come out of it and those who were thinking about transgressing from rider safety rules will be deterred by this very sad incident

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:42 AM
I wish the best for Holiday World and hope this offers some closure so they can move on.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:36 AM
Thanks for the link, Chitown.

Maybe this will help the park get some closure on this thing.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:51 AM
Is anyone else having a problem seeing the pages? I'm just getting the title and not the page images.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:29 AM
The fact that her fiance did not volunteer information is one thing. The fact that he refused to return the investigators' phone calls or cooperate with the investigation in any way is unnacceptable.

Would you not want to help out? I realize that he'd be engulfed in this tremendous feeling of loss, but wouldn't he want to make damn sure that this never happens to anyone else, ever again? After all, he's the only person that saw exactly what happened.

While reading the reports, the overwhelming feeling I got was not one of rider misconduct, but that of sheer arrogance. Taking your seat belt off and tucking it in the seatbacks? Come on.

When I think of misconduct it makes me think of someone intentionally breaking a rule while full well knowing that it could cause malice or injury. When I think of what Ms. Fellner did, I think of someone not intentionally breaking a rule, but rather of someone thinking that she is somehow above the rules. Like somehow forces of nature do not affect her because she's better than the average rider simply because she joined some club.

I feel bad for her family, I feel bad for the park. It may be callous of me, but I honestly do not feel bad for Tamar Fellner. If anything, I'm still angry with her.

I make my living making sure that amusement attractions are safe. Making sure that people can go out and have fun without having to worry about being hurt or killed. When someone throws all this hard work back in my face simply because she wanted a little more airtime, it pisses me off. It's a direct assault on me and all others like me who all of you depend on.

There's absolutely no excuse why this should have ever happened, and I'm glad that it's over.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:06 AM
Amen brother. See you next month.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:10 AM
I would also agree with kpjb.
My guess is that he didnt cooperate because he had thoughts of suing for loss of companionship and if he admitted that she intentionally didnt follow rules while he was sitting next to her it would hurt his chances to make some money of this incident. If not for this reason then i see no other resaon why he wouldnt cooperate in the investigation(of course he knew why she died and what she did to cause her death). You would think he would want to know what caused the death of his loved one and would cooperate in finding out unless he had other motives.
The true victim in this case is Holiday World, the owners and employee's who had to deal with this incident that wasnt caused by them.
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Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:41 PM
kpjb, Agent J, did you read the article in the Sept. 22 issue of AB about this?
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Monday, September 29, 2003 5:51 AM
Must we desecrate the memories of lost ones? If one of YOUR relatives fell asleep at the wheel and died in an accident, would you want to hear people calling them names?

Has anyone pondered the meaning of "Rest in PEACE?"

Cut it out.

-S.A.R.

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Monday, September 29, 2003 6:17 AM
We still need to examine the causes of accidents to prevent future accidents.

Note: I believe that Indiana has a law making violating park safety rules a crime. If so the lady's fiance may be hesitent to talk because he might be considered a participant or accessory. If you are sitting next to someone you know well who violates the law, police are likely to think that you are either helping them or doing the same thing they are. In that case he could be subject to prosecution. In effect, what he's doing may well be exercising his rights under the fifth amendment. Futher note: He may not have done anything illegal, but he has the right to say nothing if there is even an appearance that he might have done something illegal. Just one stupid word while you are emotionally upset could get you in a lot of trouble.

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Monday, September 29, 2003 6:22 AM
We? We who?

Seems to me the investigators already did that--which may be the idea behind calling it a 'final' report.

It's bad enough her fiance has to wake up each morning without her.

Can we stop the spitballing already?


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Monday, September 29, 2003 6:28 AM
'Playa and Jim, thanks for posting. While Tamar's "misconduct" has been called into serious question, and should NEVER be repeated, this young woman paid *the ultimate price* for her mistake. Her fiance no doubt was, and still is, in a LOT of pain and would like to protect not only her memory but his own freedom as well....

Let's LEARN from this incident, and do so in a manner respectful of the dead. I know if this one one of my friends or family (and for quite a while that night I wasn't sure if it was or not), I would be horrified to read some of the more vitriolic posts floating about....and I'm pretty sure the good people at HW feel the same.

Thanks!
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Monday, September 29, 2003 6:46 AM
I agree 'Gator, I spent the first part of that night trying to "network" to make sure all of the people I knew who were there were accounted for. I couldn't imagine how much more I would be affected by this if I knew her personally...

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