New Types of Coasters
Great idea! Just think if one coaster valleys they can just run the other coarse to keep it open. The technology is hear, They just need to implement it. Look at superman:ultimate flight at sfgadv. The 2 station system could easily be put right after mid course brakes and after the final brake runs.
Just a thought, ondrew
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p.s. contrary to popular belief i am not an idiot nor i am i a child.
Anyways, I think grant has made the best point, actually (whether he meant to or not :)). My guess is that we're going to see the big companies go for a more "traditional" feel.
I think the Impulse/Hydro launch coaster will come to every park that needs one by the end of the decade, but I'd also be willing to bet that parks will try to build more old-fashioned style coasters. With GG and S&S Wooden Coasters joining the line up along with CCI, i think that many parks that only have old woodies will get new bigger ones, themed to look like the old fasioned woodies.
Especialy with S&S's aquiring of Arrow, i think we'll also see some of the old fashioned sit down megaloopers come back with modern, more comfortable technology, and old fashioned theming. And *gasp* I actually don't think we'll see any more 4Ds. At least not anytime soon - from what I hear, X is a headache Six Flags couldn't afford (and possibly a headache for anyone who sits on the outer seat), despite what a groudbreaking ride it is.
Now that the GP have ridden coasters upside down, backwards, sideways and flipped every which way, i think most people (and i say this based on conversations i have with people at parks) are looking for a more traditional thrill: the shaking, unpredictability of a woodie, the "balls-in-your-throat" feeling of the bunny hills on the hypers and mini-hypers, or the simplistic genious of coasters like the early Schwartzkopf rides (Revolution comes to mind) that make great use of the scenery, have simple restraints, and combine airtime, big drops, and high G's with one or two loops. Even rides like Whizzer may come back in fashion (especially based on the uproar it's potential removal caused) - they're thrilling enough for adults with the quick speeds and the open cars that leave you feeling vulnerable, but still fun for the family to ride together.
I think especially with the economy the way it is, both the parks and guests (who may not have to deal with upcharges in gate price that huge new rides reflect) would benifit greatly by building simpler, yet well thought out rides rather than sticking the next 12mil clone in their parking lot. Although i have to admit, I think the "bigger is better" mentality will be very hard for corporate parks to break. I guess only time will tell, and I regress...
~me
edit: POP tag change (italic)
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*** This post was edited by nelson324 2/7/2003 1:58:41 AM ***
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I'm not very creative and at the the moment cannot think of any new and cool designs to contribute, but I do definitely agree with statements above about looping coasters and old fashioned woodies. It would be so cool to get back to some basics with today's comfort and technology.
We've been *wowed* by crazy heights and twists and turns and even 4th elements. I would love to see something with lots of hills and turns or lots of loops and rolls........It's just....Fun!
BTW, the floorless stand up sounds like a lot of fun too, especially enjoyable to watch for any "non-riders" ;)
....Wow....non-riders?! It's almost unthinkable isn't it?
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*** This post was edited by CP Silly 2/7/2003 8:13:50 AM ***
Mack has developed the "Fun Coaster" which is basically a combination of a wild mouse and a normal coaster, with cars that are layed upon buffers, so they can swing in all directions.
Intamin has presented a new kind of Water Coaster, that can be accelerated by LIM (don't know, if this is already old news).
Gerstlauer is producing two of its "Eurofighter" Coasters (BonBon-Land 03, Bobbejaanland 04) with a first drop of about 95°.
Maurer Soehne has shown the "Xtended"Coaster, containing single "X-cars", where every type of Coaster Train is built onto the same platform. They also have shown 3 designs, which imho all look very good! They even contain some new inversions, like the Twist@Loop. (not a Link)
I think, that it is quite a good time for inventions in the amusement industry. :)
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jkpark said:
Build a coaster with a missing piece of track and have the train jump it. It could be the very first "Stunt Coaster!"------------------
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There was a couple threads discussing this a while ago, I couldn't find the links but you can try to search for them if you have the time. I would have a 4d without rotational guide rails that can spin freely at certain points of the ride and then lock in to position by the train's onboard computer at other points.
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a.) Build a new type of 4D coaster where instead of just rotating around the x-axis, they also can rotate around the y axis at the same time.
b.) Build something similar to the X trains but instead of having the 2 xtra rails to rotate the seats, the trains use physics (and i believe inertia) to move them, much like the zipper at your local carnival.
c.) A roller coaster that comines the effects of spiderman w/ the effects of a roller coaster. Each row of the train, or each car of the train would be fully enclosed w/ a screen per car and you could get the effects of going through loops and what not combined with anything the director can imagine. These types of rides could have a greater shelf-life do to you being able to change the picture beings shown.
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-Dan
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Colonel Sanders said:
If a car is enclosed does that lower the amount of g's exerted upon the rider?
It wouldn't lower the g's that one felt as they were moving through the ride, what it would do is prevent the wind from blowing in your face, which in my opinion would take away from the thrill of the ride.
What i would like to see though was a 4-d where the spin wasn't controlled by rails, but either by inertia, or by an on board computer. with inertia, each ride would be completely different, and with an on-bord computer they can program different trains to do different things.
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Dan The Man said:
I think it wold be cool to see a suspended and a sit-down coaster on the same track. The sitdown riding on top and the suspended hanging on the bottom. Two coasters in one.------------------
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