Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:53 AM
You gotta like the below-grade approach to the Immelman! Not quite a tunnel, but a nice touch.
I'm hoping VF gets a Talon 'cousin' (as CF has never really cloned a custom coaster)
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:17 AM
Thanks for the pictures Ridezone. I really think Dorney deserves Kudos on this one, the ride is really going to be a winner. I don't see what there is not to like about it. As for some comments on the pictures, has anyone else payed attention to how tight the inclined spiral is going to be? I imagine some crazy g's being pulled on it. Also, the trench before the immallmenn is just another great way to spice up the ride.
Since these photos were taken, even more work has been done, and the immallmenn as well as the inclined spiral have both been finished. The work has now concentrated on the dip and turn before entering the corkscrew.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:48 AM
I too can think of nothing cooler then to see VF get a similar invert.
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:58 AM
I wasn't too excited about Talon when it was first announced because it didn't appear to offer anything that B&M hasn't done before, but now I am seeing the genius behind the design. It seems that the ride is going to take a lot of older, proven inverted coaster ideas and improve upon them in some way (tighter drops and spirals, etc.) to make Talon completely unique and interesting. Now I can't wait!
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:40 AM
This ride (in concept, not exact layout) looks more and more like Top Gun: The Jet Coaster at Carowinds every day. Not a bad thing by any means, this looks like a knock-out ride.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:10 PM
What is that on the track right before the immelmann, a trim brake? I doesn't look like a trim yet because it's lacking some major equitment and its rather short. I am hoping its just part of the structure.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:54 PM
Joe E. I don't care if that's a brake or not, I'm not picky like some other people who simply can't stand brakes. Let me inform you that a lot of your favorite coasters have trim brakes on them.
Talon is going to rock, roll, and take its toll!
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:11 PM
Quite True. Actually my favorite ride dose not have any standard brakes at all ;). Also the majority of my favorite rides either have mid course brakes which don't grab normally, or no trims at all.
It not to say they are going to use it. If the imelmann is tolerable to the average rider, then don't, but if it isn't it's nice to have it there so they don't have to install it later. No matter what, Talon will Kick. Allentown here I come.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:50 PM
That's definitely a trim brake, but if it's like most B&M trim brakes you won't notice it that much. It may only be there also if the train exceeds the computer's specs.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:11 PM
Yes indeed it is a very small brake. I have a photo that shows it better somewhere. I doubt it will have much impact on the ride though, it is just to keep the speed in check if needed.
The more I see of Talon, the more I am intrigued. This is a fairly tight layout and should be fun. From the loop until the final brake, this ride is constant action. I think a lot of people will be pleasently surprised by this ride.
Within a day or two, the Jan 23 photos should be up on RideZone showing the Immelmann, Inclined Spiral and S-curve. A bit more of the station too.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:18 PM
Just a question... I noticed that there is no cobra roll in this coaster... How many other B&M inverts are there without a cobra roll element somewhere in them?
I'd Rather Be Riding Rollercoasters
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:35 PM
lets see, every single Batman: The Ride, Both Top Guns, Montu, Great Bear, and I am sure there have to be several others out there.
Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:16 PM
I also noticed there is no mid-course brake. Talk about non-stop action. That trim is the smallet I think I've seen.
Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:36 AM
At first, I was bummed that there was no cobra roll...until I realized that element would give Talon wayyyy too much in common with a $2 million Boomerang or a $3.5 million Super Invertigo. This coaster is uniquely B&M.
Not to mention the layout still gives Dorney some future options. They could add a Vekoma shuttle later and it would complement the coaster lineup.
Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:31 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of a stand up for Dorney Park. Now I know many people don't like them, and that so many people say that there park is going to get one, but I have reasons to believe this is the case. People around the park have stated this, and a ride like that would be completely unique to the market, therefore making it quite to commodity. We will see however, but I do agree that a cobra roll will be used in a future ride. Oh yeah, I would rather my homepark stay away from roller coasters with the name Vekoma on them
Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:32 AM
I cant wait until opening day that roll and immelman look great. Its a shame though that Nitro at Great Adventure will be a lot better but its alot better park anyway.
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