NEW Six Flags In Upstate New York?

^^^ I added a winky to keep the fanfolk from getting too bent out of shape.

majortom, I've been Six Flags free since 1978. I figure it's up to them to give me a good reason to come back... still waiting.

Maybe SF isn't looking to build a park, but rather Shapiro is looking for land to put up a little bungalow up there in the Catskills.

I understand some people not liking Six Flags and all that, but not allowing yourself to ride dozens of great coasters? Just doesn't make sense to me.

It does to me. I'll spend my money where I feel valued as a customer.

I agree with your point and I think it applies in most industries. Colgate toothpaste can be bought at almost any drug store or supermarket. If you don't like a particular store, just go somewhere else.

But when amusement parks are all offering something different, to me it just doesnt apply. Maybe I just overvalue variety and different experiences, but it seems that avoiding a certain place or places only limits one's enjoyment. I am not just talking about credit whoring.

Want to ride a Giovanola Hyper? Have to go to Six Flags. Some of the classic Allen and older wood? Have to go to Six Flags. Some of the great B&M creations? Have to go to Six Flags.

I think to say that Six Flags and only Six Flags has classic wooden coasters and great B&M coasters is off base. I've ridden a number of both without getting within miles of a Six Flags park.

Maybe some of their coasters are great, but for me the tradeoff that comes along with those rides isn't worth it to me. By that I mean the long lines, poor operations, poor customer service, and the lack of value it seems I would get for the price I would pay. If you have no problem with that, I say go for it and enjoy yourself.

When SF decides to get serious about improving the guest experience, they may get me to visit again. But in the meanwhile, there's no need to pity me. It's not like I'm locked in my room. I'm enjoying many really great coasters and parks, and doing a lot of fun things away from parks as well.

Want to ride a Giovanola Hyper? Have to go to Six Flags.

All two of them? lol. I've ridden them and wasn't impressed. I'll take Apollo's Chariot and the Morgan's over Goliath and Titan.

Some of the classic Allen and older wood? Have to go to Six Flags.

There are only two Allen woodies in the SF chain: at SFOG and SFStL. I've ridden both of those as well and would much rather be riding anything at IB, HW, Knoebels, Compounce, Knotts, and many others.

Some of the great B&M creations? Have to go to Six Flags.

Of my favorite B&M coasters only Batman is part of the Six Flags chain. Thankfully if I an urge to ride one I can go to Sea World in San Antonio and ride Great White ;)

So as it turns out I'm not missing much by avoiding Six Flags parks.

RoarsLoudly Reply | Edit | Quote 4/27/2007 11:18:33 AM
I spoke to a friend of mine who is a homeowner in Kingston asd she told me that Six Flags, LTD. has indeed purchased land there and they are also finishing the construction of two Marriot Marquis Hotels. I personally cannot vouch the veracity of this information but unless she was mistaken she would not be making this up as she stated to me it is in all the local ares newspapers.

...hmmmmmm maybe it is true then... who knows, only time will tell i guess

also Kingston isnt a little nothing town. All over this area are apartment complexes, housing developments. Tons and Tons of people... it could very well be possibly true. With all the Casinos comin in, hotels goin up... maybe people are looking at it as a very smart place to plan a future for a park.

RoarsLoudly said:
I personally cannot vouch the veracity of this information but unless she was mistaken she would not be making this up as she stated to me it is in all the local ares newspapers.

You can't vouch for the veracity, neither can anyone else so far, yet there are reports in multiple newspapers.

I'd be surprised to get a response to this - but did you ask her which newspapers these were?

Just a thought....

If I were SF and wanted to build a WATERPARK from scratch, I could see that as *possible*...given the location. Cheap to build, easy to cash in on.

I can NOT see them building a ride park to compete with....SFGE, SFNE, and even GAdv to some extent. IMO, (obviously)...It would be like CF plopping down a brand-new park in Columbus.

*** Edited 4/28/2007 4:09:26 AM UTC by rollergator***

You still have Zoidberg.... You ALL have Zoidberg! (V) (;,,;) (V)

It would be like CF plopping down a brand-new park in Columbus.

I heard a rumor CF has just bought land in Columbus, Gator. My boyfriend's dad's uncle told me!

*** Edited 4/28/2007 4:26:46 AM UTC by Mamoosh***

I am guessing that it is Shapiro's new strategy to get the company in so much debt that it cant qualify for welfare and let the government pay for SF.

Seriously though I am believing a possible waterpark, because they have built almost all of them from scratch am I right or were they already there?

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

Who need a Six Flags waterpark up in Kingston when you've got Zoom Flume a short drive away?!? (there's a lot of sarcasm there)

Kingston really is a nothing town, although they're trying to build the area up with megastores (Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.). I would love for a SF to be built there since I frequent the area from the "downstate" (which anything from NYC and east is considered. Actually, Long Islanders consider themselves to be their own state too. NY should be divided into 3 new states.) and always look for new entertainment venues in the area. I just don't see it happening. Casinos on the other hand...

Didn't SF just unload a bunch of waterparks or am I thinking of someone else?

Six Fags probably won't be building a new park for a long time, if EVER. It's just probably a rumour or a story that got mixed up, you just like how SF is building a park in Florida and people seen the helicopters flying over it haha.

S:ROS = <3

rollergator said:

It would be like CF plopping down a brand-new park in Columbus.

Or buying one in Aurora and then buying one in Mason.

But, seriously, everyone knows why Six Flags sold Darien Lake. The weather was so cold that they had to have their Halloween events in September and closed it for the season well before the other parks. Great Escape is around mostly because the indoor waterpark model is one that the company may copy in other markets if successful.

It will be several years before Six Flags opens a new park from scratch, if ever. And when it does it would be a shocker if it wasn't in the Southern states.

Mamoosh said:
Want to ride a Giovanola Hyper? Have to go to Six Flags.
All two of them? lol. I've ridden them and wasn't impressed. I'll take Apollo's Chariot and the Morgan's over Goliath and Titan.
Some of the classic Allen and older wood? Have to go to Six Flags.
There are only two Allen woodies in the SF chain: at SFOG and SFStL. I've ridden both of those as well and would much rather be riding anything at IB, HW, Knoebels, Compounce, Knotts, and many others.
Some of the great B&M creations? Have to go to Six Flags.
Of my favorite B&M coasters only Batman is part of the Six Flags chain. Thankfully if I an urge to ride one I can go to Sea World in San Antonio and ride Great White
So as it turns out I'm not missing much by avoiding Six Flags parks.

When referring to Allen and older, I was also referring to other old coasters, of wich there a re only a couple more. Nonetheless, I think you and I are really not in disagreement here.

If you have ridden a Six Flags coaster and been to a certain Six Flags park and do not care for it, that's fine. You probably shouldn't go back. My initial statement was mainly in regards to someone saying they had avoided an entire chain for 30 years, simply because of the name. I would say that is quite a bit different than your situation.

^But it's not simply because of the name.

I understand your point to a degree but at the end of the day sometimes a great coaster or a *bunch* of great coasters just aren't worth the time/hassle/money involved with the park surrounding it.

There's only one park in the world I really actively just don't care for, maybe even come close to totally disliking (yes it's an SF park), but it still has like 4 coasters I think are really swell.

Hell, at a different SF park El Toro is only 3 hours away from me but I haven't felt compelled to go yet. Sometime this year. Probably. Maybe.

S:ROS said:
I live in Kingston and haven't heard anything except for a rumor of a new water park possibly being planned

An indoor waterpark complex wouldn't really surprise me too much. *** Edited 4/30/2007 3:16:00 PM UTC by brunus76***

Whoa, whoa, whoa... when did I say I was avoiding Six Flags for 30 years just because of the name?

For 27 of those years, I really didn't give a hoot one way or the other. I just have better selections much closer to me to visit instead, so that's where I go. As far as I'm concerned, they haven't given me a reason to consider going back yet.