New Element

anyone have any creative ideas for new elements on coasters? the more innovative the coaster become, the more i'm thinking that no element is impossible...

I think that I would like to see in-line twists on standard loopers (non-inverts). I would also like to see a half barrol-roll and half loop for the first drop.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Manhattan Express in Vegas have in-line twists.

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What about this. First, an immelman then for the next drop you do a half in'line twist and a half loop down.

What about this. First, an immelman then for the next drop you do a half in'line twist and a half loop down.

raptor fan: ride any Vekoma SLC. The heart-shaped 'rollover' is just what you described...
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i would like to see instead of a big loop first i would like to a giant corckscrew or batwing first. That would be fun.

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Coaster*genius100, Drachen Fire has one of those.

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i think on an inverted it would be cool if you went into a barel roll and instead of coming out of it with your feet facing the ground, you come out with your feet to the side. Next you would go into a turn, and then go out of the turn with another barell roll. sound cool?

It's very hard to explain but imagine doing half a cobra roll, then dive down and behind
loop. So basically after doing the half corkscrew part you'd do downward helix around the loop. Hope ya' get it!
-Charlie Weingartner

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If you look at Iron Dragon from above on the park map at the end it does that pretzel shaped turn, I think it would be cool if they used the pretzel turn and turned it vertical standing up so it would be almost like a Batwing type inversion. I'm not sure if you'd understand what I'm talking about though because it's to complicated to describe.

How about a Knievel Coaster? Actually a break in the track where the train becomes airborne, just briefly however. This upside down stuff is getting boring, this would certainly scare the !@#$ out of us. It would keep the lines down also. Certainly I jest.

How about a half corcscrew to the right, so that you face 90 degrees to the right upside down, than an in-line twist to turn your right-side up! And after that, another in-line twist, this one to turn you inverted, and another half corcscrew to un-invert. If you used it after 2 regular corcscrews, no one would ever expect it! You guys understand? It would be cool!

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PkI FaNaTiC said:
"It's very hard to explain but imagine doing half a cobra roll, then dive down and behind
loop. So basically after doing the half corkscrew part you'd do downward helix around the loop. Hope ya' get it!
-Charlie Weingartner

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You mean a wrap around Immleman, as seen on Fire Dragon of Deuling Dragons at IOA. Truly one of the best inversions of all time.


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How about an inverted version of the Top Hat like on Chiller. Instead of being on top of the track and rotating to the inner section of the top hat, you would be underneath it and rotate to the outside and go over the top like an inverted loop.

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Actually...

A completely new element?
How about a 100% complete 90 degree spiraling drop (sit down coaster)!!
Almost like a zero-G/Heart-line roll except instead of horizontal, it's vertical.

Mind you, for it to spiral like that... it'd have to be some 300+ feet tall before you can execute a pullout.

I thought about that too, Dawg Byte. However, if Rollercoaster Tycoon is any indication, that is just too intense. I know RCT isn't an exact physics demonstration but spiraling 90 degree drops haven't worked for me. Let's just hope I'm wrong, eh? ;)

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I'd love to see a helix banked at 100-110 degrees on a hyper. I fear there would be OTSRs though.

Bent-Brent, that was tried in the '20's, I think. Maybe before then. It can be described with one word: FAILURE. It was be done though, in ideal conditions, but those never exist.

An awesome element would be a launch from the station @ 80mph, and up 90 degrees just like Hypersonic, but instead of going over the top of a hill, it flips backwards and you go down at a 95 degree angle (so the people in the back can see well) which levels out 50 feet below the station in a tunnel with some awesome lighting effects.
To make it better, the "loop" is just tall enough for the train to get over it at 5mph, so you hang there for a couple seconds. Then at the end, it pulls you up another 90 degree hill, to make you go through it backwards, unless of course it is an element used on a regular coaster, and not a shuttle (but I can only think of two non-shuttle launched coaster, so more than likely, it would be a shuttle.)

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V2, Deja Vu... how can it be better? Add Viper! Oh, wait. It's already there!

Unfortunately, TrBiggar... I see flaws big-time with your inventions...

A 95 degree drop? Anything over 90 degrees is going to then put the gravitational force on your upper body... meaning that you just might get a head rush, and the pressure will REALLY be strong to pull you right out of those restraints!
Here's an easier way to think of it..
Instead of going down this back slash the normal way: \... imagine riding on the opposide side of it down.... not too pleasant!!

As for the loop to get around at 5mph... you got to figure weight distribution into it. If the train slithered into the top of the loop at 5mph... what if 10 heavy-set people put themselves in the train instead, OR 10 very light people. Weight has a lot to do with the top speed, and if there is a variance, it's bound to lost ALL of its speed easily and just roll back.

On the other hand, you COULD maybe make a chain around that loop to keep it slow: a la Sim Coaster/ Sim Theme Park :)

But the other idea of a 95 degree angle is compeltely totally inconceviable & impossible!!