New Changes in store next year at SFGAM?
RagingBullGuy said:
SFGA2001 said:
I think Whizzer will go sooner than Shockwave will for some reason. It would seem the park would rather get rid of a huge ride that nobody likes.
Quiet you. If in fact no one liked Shockwave then it *wouldn't* be here today. I am a very big fan of Shockwave, and personally, I just can't seem to figure out what the heck everyone is doing wrong to get such horrible rides...
Hey, I like Shockwave too. It is a great coaster for when the park is crowded and everything has long lines. I just go over to Shockwave and power ride for a half hour or so. I said nobody likes it because it never has a line. It has some riders in the morning, but then, that's it. And, I said I hate to say it, because I was sure I would get flamed. "Why would you want a stupid old coaster rather than a totally wicked B&M flyer with 10 turnovers?" Seriously, there is a ton of room over by Shockwave, have CCI add a nice coaster in there, ala Cornball. I wish they would put lapbars on Shockwave, that would be amazing. It happened to the Premeir's why not the Arrow's?
It might have to do with the fact that Shockwave has 7 inversions but then again B&R the Chiller has 6. Still the GP is already easily intimidated by loops (can't understand that one, they're a hell of a lot easier than that first drop on RB) and if there is nothing to hold them in, I wouldn't be surprised if the lines disappeared into oblivion.
I like Shockwave A LOT, I make it a point to ride it every time I go and to miss it would be the downside of the day. Truthfully, I can't understand why the harnesses have to be made of such a firm material it feels like hard styrofoam, why can't they replace the harnesses with a spongy type material that might have a metal bar on the outside of them altogether, that wouldn't be bad to hit yoru head against.
Edit: Oh and I'm glad you agree with me about the CCI coaster in Orleans Place SFGA2001.
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*** This post was edited by SFGAMDie HARD on 6/2/2002. ***
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SFGAMDie HARD said:
...I like Shockwave A LOT, I make it a point to ride it every time I go and to miss it would be the downside of the day. Truthfully, I can't understand why the harnesses have to be made of such a firm material it feels like hard styrofoam, why can't they replace the harnesses with a spongy type material that might have a metal bar on the outside of them altogether, that wouldn't be bad to hit yoru head against.
Because after 1 day, the guests would have them ripped to pieces.
*** This post was edited by Sky Whirl Guy on 6/3/2002. ***
TrBiggar said:
And even if it was, that doesn't mean a thing. Sky Whirl had some nice looking new paint on it in 2000. We all know what happend to it in 2001.
Yes .. The supposedly 'hard to maintain' Sky Whirl was replaced with the 'wonderful new technology' of Deja Vu.
How often did Sky Whirl not run?
How often has Deja Vu run?
I would be VERY surprised if Whizzer was removed .. the past two winters have seen much work done on the ride (everything from new wheels, to new paint, to totally refurbishment..). Parks don't sink a pile of money into a ride, and then remove it.
I actually doubt we'll see any new coaster next year .. The park needs a lot of fix-up, it needs a big ferris wheel, and a pile of flat rides .. Hopefully we'll get that instead of some other cookie-cutter ride slapped down in the middle of no-where...
Cam.
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Cameron Silver
Having just taken a post SRM side trip to SFGAM my observations were that the Whizzer is a popular ride with the public. The lines were fairly long for it. Meanwhile, the station was totally empty for Shockwave. I'd like to see them keep the Whizzer. It's a great family ride, still popular after all these years, and since it is a very rare ride it should be saved as some sort of historical landmark.
And as for this statement regarding Shockwave:
I just can't seem to figure out what the heck everyone is doing wrong to get such horrible rides
You must be kidding right? The brutal turn after the third loop is a prime example of pain on this ride. Total head slam on that part. I don't see how you could avoid it no matter how you try to ride it. OUCH! I am a BIG fan of arrow loopers, but as far as this one goes...they can "Taer it down!" and that would be just fine with me.
*** This post was edited by Coasterbuf on 6/6/2002. ***
SFGA...The big rumor going around the park is that they are seriously looking at either the B&M Flyer (Superman: Ultimate Flight) or another Arrow 4th Dimension (X) coaster for next season.
I hope so...
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Deja Vu count: 1
Will it go up this year? As long as it doesn't valley before Monday evening!
IF they put in a new coaster I would think Intamin and B&M would be on their short list considering their fallout with Vekoma and Arrow. If Six Flags buys out Arrow then that may change but given current situation those are the two companies I believe will be doing business with for steel coasters in the near future. Another wood by CCI might not be out of the question but I think they would go steel again. This is again only IF they build a coaster.
Given the various technologies that Intamin and B&M could offer I see B&M having more options than Intamin. Intamin offers Impulses(V2), inverted full circuit (got one already, Batman), and hyper coasters (got one already, Raging Bull)
B&M's new offerings could be a flyer, floorless,vertical, or even a sitdown. I see the flyer or floorless as the most likely.
IF they dont get a coaster I will put my money on at least one major flat ride add along with some smaller flats. My money is on a top spin which has decent capacity and is popular with the guests.
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You silly dude, your'e only food, for the DEMON"
Particularly true when the coaster sculpture niche is being filled so well by the Blue and Green Monument.
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Someday there will be something here.
But Lallen, they are always filling trains. No line, true, but I hardly ever see it run with trains that are haf empty. In fact, I never have. Maybe 1 or 2 rows empty for 1 cycle, but the trains always fill, people are always filling the station. It may not be as popular, but as long as the station is filling, it has the same number of riders per hour as any other ride (with similar capacity.)
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Deja Vu count: 1
Will it go up this year? As long as it doesn't valley before Monday evening!
But Six Flags needs a reason to draw people to the Chicago-area. And the best way is to put something there that can't be found nearby. And there's the floorless at WOA already. But there's no regular looper. And if they do take away Shockwave, then there's be a great need for another multi-looper at GAm.
Though, when I was at GAm on Wed., June 5th, one of the video features playing in the station of Batman showed a computer simulation of Batman: The Dark Knight (incidentally, why would the Dark Knight use bright pink track?). So, maybe a subtle hint at what's to come? Or jsut something cool to show people while they'er in line?
Or, what about an S&S ride? Nothing quite on teh scale of Dodonpa (not that I would mind), but certainly bigger than Hypersonic XLC. Or sometihng like Xcelerator in Knott's? Intamin pulled off a good ride with V2, so why wouldn't SF go with them for another ride?
No matter what, though, I don't want to see another shuttle coaster. I want a good, 2 - 3 minute ride does a continuous circuit.
Sfgam Enthusiast 7 said:
"Sadly, I think it is time to see the Whizzer go. It would be so awesome to see a new roller coaster on the Whizzer's land. Even though it's hard to let go of things sometimes, it's alot easier when they are replaced by newer, better rides. ... I don't think Shockwave is going anywhere. It's a classic Arrow coaster ...
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First you say that it's OK for things to be replaced by newer and better things, then say not to remove Shockwave because it's a classic! :)
Also, there is land elsewhere (without removing rides) .. Any piece of land can be built up like the area around Whizzer (it just takes money, which (admittedly) is not something Six Flags like to part with!).
As long as Whizzer is not killing/hurting people, there is NO reason to remove it. It constantly has a long lone, has gobs of history, is a historically significant ride, and is one of the most fun rides in the park.
Shockwave, on the other hand, isn't. Now, I happen to like the ride, and don't have a problem riding it, but it just doesn't appear to be a big draw. The land around it would be very easy to build up, and it wouldn't require to much to replace with a new ride (queue/exits are present, etc).
Of course, they really shouldn't remove any rides.
Cam.
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Cameron Silver
TrBiggar said:
Coasterbuf, why should they 'Taer it down!"? Because it causes you pain? Well, then just stay out of line and enjoy the way it looks. You can't tell me it doesn't look beautiful from ground level on the midway. Next statement applies to everyone: You don't like a ride? Fine, just stay out of line, and don't think it should be torn down. I don't care how horrible a ride is, somebody some where must like it, and they deserve to be able to ride it.-----------------
Deja Vu count: 1
Will it go up this year? As long as it doesn't valley before Monday evening!
we already have one of those nice to look at rides named deja vu...i think they should take out shockwave because it takes up a piece of land and you could put anything there...the ride is either gonna be intamin or B&M because we need another high-capacity ride...
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