Nemesis Inferno- WHAT!?

Saturday, June 1, 2002 1:07 PM
Now, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a B&M inverted called The Nemesis that is located in the same area (England)? I would be getting a bit mad if I was Alton Towers, I mean it's as if Thorpe Park intentionally named it to draw people from the original Nemesis ride. Anyone know the purpose of this title, Nemesis Inferno? I understand the Inferno is for the Volcano, but the Nemesis part just doesn't make sense, especcially with a coaster named Nemesis in the same area.

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Saturday, June 1, 2002 1:29 PM
Both Alton Towers and Thorpe Park arowned by Tussands.
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Saturday, June 1, 2002 1:29 PM

Thorpe Park and Alton Towers are under the same Company. So it not a big deal.

Tussards(sp?)

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Saturday, June 1, 2002 1:36 PM

'nemesis' at alton towers is about 300 miles from thorpe park. however, most people in the UK know what nemesis is so it isnt like an american clone where almost no one has ever been on the ride before.

as you said about, both TP and AT are owned by tussauds. this is one of the main reasons that the ride is being called nemesis inferno. almost everyone in the UK knows what nemesis is and what style ride it is, so if they call their new ride nemesis something then everyone knows imediately what type of ride it is. however, myself and many other UK enthusists think that the nemesis tag will be dumped soon and the ride will just be called inferno. it isnt tussauds style to do something like this. not one of their 200+ rides have the same sort of name!

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Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:25 PM
Many people think Nemises Inferno at TP is a direct Clone of Nemises at AT, wrong, for a start NI has a prederop whilst N does not. The first inversion of NI is a loop, on N it is a corkscrew.
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Tuesday, May 10, 2005 1:14 PM
Some of the same things also apply here in USA. For Example the name dominator, used twice under parks owned by Cedar Fair L.P. One is a coaster, the other is a drop ride. Does it make a differance?
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Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:13 PM
Just as silly as having Superman coasters placed a few hundred miles apart. But not as silly as having two Batman coasters in the same park :)
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Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:59 PM
Yes Rob, I agree. Having two Batman themed coasters in one park is merits a 10 on the dumb scale. As far as having a gorgon in the Wild West, that's another chapter.
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Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:29 PM
Didn't Tussauds sell the parks division to the Dubai Group recently?

Anyhow, there are how many Batman: The Ride coasters out there? Not to mention that the ones at Warner Brothers Movie World aren't even owned by SFI. Nemesis Inferno was given the name to compliment the original, much like Batman: The ride at SFGAdv, Batwing at SFA, Batman & Robin: The Chiller, etc ad nauseum.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:14 AM
Tussauds was owned by charterhouse which was an investment firm and yes it has just been sold to another investement company in Dubai. Hopefully we the public won't see many changes. Who knows they might invest more??

Regarding the Nemesis name, it was a blatent marketing tool. The original Nemesis is the most famous coaster in the whole of the UK. It is also the best coaster in the Uk by miles and miles. So if you are trying to build up Thorpe park's reputation as a good place to go, why not use the Nemesis name (which everyone knows means an amazing coaster) to attract people there.

It is no where near a clone, totally and utterly different. Tussauds never build clones (for their big rides). It was a good move to use the Nemesis name in my book, because it was the same type of ride (read- b&m inverted) and you get good cross promotion. There are actual signs saying ride the original Nemesis at alton towers in the exit line at thorpe park!!.

Nemesis inferno is a good ride, well themed but not as good as the original. (originals in all aspects of life tend to be better)

And yes i aggree, Six flags has just gotten lazy with its ride names!!

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:20 AM
I think the Nemesis Inferno idea was a good one- it draws a connection to the highly-regarded original while making it clear that the ride is very different. Can't say the same for Cedar Fair and Six Flags who give very different rides identical names.
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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:24 AM
Oh, you mean like Scream! at SFMM and Scream! at SFFT?

Oh, or Thunderhawk at GL or Thunderhawk at Dorney?

Oh, and I forgot Riddler's Revenge at SFMM and Riddler's Revenge at Warner Bros. Movie World?

Why, whatever are you talking about, Rob? ;)

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:42 AM
I think while in some respects calling Thorpe's ride Nemesis Inferno was a good idea, in other respects it's a lousy idea.

If there are people from the vicinity of Staffordshire and see that Thorpe Park has "a Nemesis", why visit Thorpe Park? Sure, it has "a Nemesis", but why go all the way to Thorpe Park to ride it when you could just go to Alton Towers?

It probably is a good name in terms of attracting visitors from near Thorpe Park in that they're telling people they're getting great rides now, but from any distance away, it seems a strange move to mimic one of the most ridden coasters in the country as it must surely limit its appeal?

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:06 AM
Thunderhawk at WOF too. It's our Top Spin.

-Cal

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:31 AM
WoF doesn't count, it isn't really a park.
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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:53 AM

TeknoScorpion said:
Oh, you mean like Scream! at SFMM and Scream! at SFFT?

Oh, or Thunderhawk at GL or Thunderhawk at Dorney?

Oh, and I forgot Riddler's Revenge at SFMM and Riddler's Revenge at Warner Bros. Movie World?

Why, whatever are you talking about, Rob?


To add to Tekno's post, even though they have the same name doesn't mean that they are clones. I do know they have built clones in the past, but some of them are completely differant only have the same name.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:26 AM
I was thinking Dominator but Scream and Thunderhawk also work ;)
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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:29 AM
Oh, forgot about that one!
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