I live on the east coast, but I will be visiting Santa Cruz next week, and I would like to visit SCBB and PGA. I thought this looked like a good deal...if I can figure out the site. Thanks for any help you folks can offer.
On a related note, this is a petpeeve of mine...poor usability. Didn't somebody QA this site? I took a look and noticed that there was only a link to buy the Wow! card online.
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Have a great time at SCBB, be sure to ask for the back seat of Giant Dipper!
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I live near PGA, but haven't been there in years, so I might be wrong. Like Draco said, SFMW is a much better park, and I gladly rack up the mileage on my car to go there over PGA.
Draco said:
Also keep in mind PGA doesn't open until 3/29. If your visit is next week, you'll be a bit early. But SFMW just opened for the season last weekend, and is a much better park IMO.Have a great time at SCBB, be sure to ask for the back seat of Giant Dipper!
Yeah, I generalized by saying "next week." I'll actually be there through opening weekend at PGA.
I went to SFMW during my last visit to the west coast, and I was impressed in many regards, but lately I have grown even more disillusioned than usual with SF operations in general. Also I am not comfortable with the way in which SF handles the animal exhibits at their parks. I'm in favor of zoos in general, but SF is a theme park, not an "educational facility" or a traditional zoo. They are a money making machine, and they seem to have had a disproportionate number of animal deaths.
I'm not ruling out going to SFMW, but I thought I would give PGA a chance. We'll see what happens. If I knew that Zonga and V2 would be open it might sway my decision. At least at PGA everything will be new to me even if not everything is open.
Is there something special about the back seat on the Giant Dipper or are you trying to give me whiplash? :)
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BassHedz said:
and the rest is history...
If SF stepping in meant saving Marine World/Africa USA from going out of buisness completely, then I guess that is progress, but I'm not satisfied with SF in general. I can put up with their poor management practices at my local SFNE, however when animal care is involved, I have a hard time excusing them as just another product of a corporate and commercial world. Busch Ent. is just as interested in making money, but they seem somewhat sincere in their efforts toward environmental responsibility.
I'm not saying that everyone should boycott SF animal parks or anything. I just like to be aware of what's happening at the places I spend my money (or choose not to sometimes).
gardener14 said:
Also I am not comfortable with the way in which SF handles the animal exhibits at their parks. I'm in favor of zoos in general, but SF is a theme park, not an "educational facility" or a traditional zoo. They are a money making machine, and they seem to have had a disproportionate number of animal deaths.
Have you been listening to the news about the National Zoo here in DC? Animals die; it's a fact of life. Just because an entity is "corporate" does not mean that care will be automatically better or worse. Evaluate it for what it is (and right not the National Zoo is a hot mess...)
lata, jeremy
--who really does not care about "animal rights" one bit.
I never meant to cause controversy about SF or zoos. I was originally responding to someone's suggestion that I should visit SFMW over PGA. SFMW is a very nice facility as are most SF parks. I think SF management is beginning to catch on to the ways in which the public is dissatisfied with their experiences with SF, and hopefully they will begin to improve their level of service and customer care.
As far as animal care goes, I'm reminded of this philosophy. If a restaurant has dirty restrooms, imagine what the kitchen is like. Similarly, if SF doesn't treat their customers with high regard (as is evidenced by my experiences and the many comments in these forums) why should we assume they treat their animals with high regards either? Any reports I've read just add to the suspicion. Hey, I may go to SFMW after all...I just like to consider my overall experience and not just base my visit on who has the bigger coaster.
Sure, their living conditions aren't ideal as say, San Diego Wild Animal Park, due to space limitations, but they are far from being malnourished and mistreated. In fact, other than the aforementioned Wild Animal Park and its sister, San Diego Zoo, and possibly the Calgary Zoo, I have not seen another zoo with better animal exhibits. The two local zoos we have here, the Knowland Park Zoo, and the San Francisco Zoo, are sick jokes. They are like throwbacks to the old days when tigers were stored in 3x8 cages. Just because something is "corporate" it doesn't mean that they are neglectful.
And gardener14, the only reason I suggest the back is because GD is not a very big coaster at all, only 70ft tall. But, the small drops and wicked turns are most exaggerated in the back due to its great pacing, which IMO, gives the best ride. The front has it's moments too, but it's definitely a back seat coaster.
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