Nagashima Spaland, or, What's CP doing in Japan?

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Friday, September 14, 2001 11:53 AM

Nagashima Spaland – 8/9/01

(Sorry for the lateness of this report.)

As I drive to the peninsula, I see many familiar sights…..there is the big red out and back hyper coaster, the massive woodie, multi-leg S&S tower, Intamin freefall, Imax Movie, Arrow Corkscrew, the water park next to the 2 on-site hotels, the lagoon……I love going to Cedar…..oh wait….I’m in Japan. This is REALLY familiar though! Nagashima is a beautiful, friendly, and sparkling clean amusement park located on the Pacific, near the city of Osaka.

The rides: For illustration, I’ve provided a link to one picture for each coaster. (I love my new camera!) Many more pictures can be found on www.CoasterGallery.com

Children coaster: A standard Tivoli coaster from Zierer similar to many in the states. Always good fun:

http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N01.html

Corkscrew: An older model of Arrow corkscrew. This one was very fun thanks to the proximity of the trees to the ride. Very enjoyable! http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N04.html

Jet Coaster: A Togo that is not a torture device! Cool! This ride was basically a mine train, and had some fun moments like a drop over the lagoon. Smooth, fun…..is this really a Togo? ;) http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N06.html

Looping Star: It’s always fun to ride an Anton Schwarzkopf coaster. This single looping coaster is like Python at Busch Garden’s Tampa. Fast, smooth, fun, and just lap bars. Oh yeah! http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N07.html

The world’s biggest pirate ship???? This thing has to be seen to be believed! Judging it’s height compared to SD2K I would estimate it to be in the 200-250 foot range. Two boats that held an extrordinary number of people each. Check out the size of this thing! http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N08.html

Steel Dragon 2000 – The size of this coaster when you first see it is overwhelming. The climb up the lift hill takes a REALLY long time. I couldn’t believe it. There is a lot of time to let the fear grab hold of you. The first drop is heavenly, and is just the first part of a great coaster. Next, the second hill gives delicious, floating airtime for what seems like an eternity. The 3rd hill continues in the same fashion, this time with a twisting drop leading to the complicated turnaround. The turnaround is lengthy and complex. I enjoyed it, however a lot of speed is lost here, and there were a few seconds that I might even call (dare I?) a little boring. The return leg trip is nothing but air thanks to a half a dozen bunny hops and the occasional tunnel. Wow! What a ride!!! OK, time to get something out of the way: Is SD2K better than MF – No - Is MF better than SD2K – No. They are very, very different coasters. Some people may prefer one, some people may prefer another. I thought the trains were less ugly in person, and were actually quite nice to ride in. Hats off to Morgan, this is truly a world class ride! http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N09.html

Shuttle Loop – OK, so they didn’t put a whole lot of thought into the name of this ride, but it really doesn’t matter. There are simply not enough of these fun coasters left. (Especially the flywheel models, which think give an even more thrilling ride…Montezooma, Lazer Loop, etc.) I hope everyone gets to ride one of these before they’re all gone. http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N17.html

Ultra Twister – A trip report I read from 2-3 years ago said that Nagashima’s old Ultra Twister was gone, so I was pleasantly surprised to find this here. Everything about it looks brand spanking new, so perhaps they traded in for a new one not too long ago? What a unique ride! This one still has the 90-degree lift hill like the one here in the US had when it was at SFGAd. http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N25.html

White Cyclone – OK, I’ll admit after riding many big wooden coasters in the USA that haven’t held up well I grabbed my Aspirin right before I got in line for this one. Boy was I wrong! Nagashima really must give it TONS of TLC. Some parts of the helices were bumpy, but overall if was in great condition. Even more surprising was the condition of the paint job. After just a few years, a painted woodie can really start looking bad (see Twister II), but there wasn’t a single flake of paint missing or even dirty looking on this ride. I simply can’t imagine the maintenance they perform just to keep the ride looking so good.

This Intamin woodie had airtime like I couldn’t believe in the front. (Airtime similar to the front of Cornball Express, but even more plentiful). The helices were fast and furious, and the ride never let up with its intensity. I wish I could describe this ride adequately. Perhaps if you imagine Son of Beast and Cornball Express having a baby it will give you an idea of what it was like! http://www.coastergallery.com/japan/N26.html

Wild Mouse – This is actually 2 Mack Wild Mouse coasters set up as mirror images of each other, which adds a very fun dueling aspect to the ride. This is REALLY fun, I hope a big park in America considers adding 2 of these, it really helps with capacity.

Overall Nagashima is an amazing park. World-class rides combined with world class operations make for a world class park. The selection of flat rides was also great. My only complaint….it’s too far away from home!

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- Peabody

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Friday, September 14, 2001 2:22 PM
Yay! Sounds like an absolutely fantastic park. The props to cleanliness and maintenance prompt me to have great respect for the park. Sounds like each coaster rode well, and has not been neglected. Although I can't see TOO many similarites with CP, other than the similiar placement and tall structures, but I accept that it's common to compare anything coaster-related to that park.

Although I'm so grateful that you obviously visited the park without negative biases and pre-made opinions, I have one problem. Why does everybody find it impossible to compare MF and SD2K? If you're comparing Nagashima to CP, I'd imagine it wouldn't be TOO hard..

Admittedly, they're almost COMPLETELY different coasters, but they are in the same league. But myself favoring Mamba over Millennium Force, I'm eager to know! Would it be that dangerous to state your preference? I know you have one...

Well, I hope you can overlook my hypocrisy, but if MF wasn't at Cedar Point I would ask the same thing. Any comment would be appreciated, although I thoroughly enjoyed your TR in it's present form!

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Friday, September 14, 2001 2:44 PM
1. Don't you meen Scorpion at BGT? :)

2. A Double Mouse is going into Disney's Animal Kingdom.

3. Isn't White Cyclone an Intamin Woodie?

Thanks for the report. Sounds like a great park! BTW, I'll be heading to this park and more in 2002. Looking forward to the experiance...
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Don't look down-Oblivion

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Friday, September 14, 2001 4:34 PM
Peabody:

Great tr and nice pics. One question though-What kind of trains does white cyclone run?

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Friday, September 14, 2001 5:46 PM

Ed - I see your point. I compare Nagashima to CP just because how many parks are on penninsulas with 2 on site hotels, seperate water park, and similar rides? It caught me off guard! OK, let me try to make a fair comparison of SD2K to MF. SD2K is very similar in ride experience to Mamba or Steel Force, just larger and with an expanded turnaround. The ride is fast and smooth, with gentle, floating air. There is no "ejector" air, just a lot of floating. A lot of speed is lost between the beginning and the end. Differences: MF feels much faster, and maintains a higher speed. Also, MF has a more out of control feeling, while SD2K has a very controlled, calculated feel. If you want to have an idea of the diffferenced between the 2, try comparing Mamba to S:ROS (Darien Lake or America), and that will give you an idea. They are very different, but not in size of the first hills.

PT300 - Yeah, I mean scorpion. Oops. Yes, Intamin built White Cyclone, I thought I said that in my TR

Steve O - White Cyclone uses good old PTC trains!

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- Peabody

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Friday, September 14, 2001 8:18 PM
One more question:

Do they allow you to sit wherever you please, is there a first come first served policy, or is it all assigned? I ask this because I found Mamba's very front row to be immesurably better than the rest of the seats. The back seats were great, but I was just astonished by the airtime in the front, and only the VERY front. The 2nd and 3rd rows didn't have the same effect.

Did you get a ride in the front? In my opinion, that's where Steve Okomota is thinking when he designs things, balance wise.

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Friday, September 14, 2001 10:01 PM
Ed - In most Japanese parks you aren't allowed to wait for a specific seat.  However, the entrance to the station on SD2K is on the back side of the train, and that's where most people seemed to queue, so I just went to the front!  It was wonderful up there!
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- Peabody
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Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:26 AM
Peabody-Oh, I must have missed that!
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Don't look down-Oblivion
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Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:58 PM
Peabody-did you ride Ultra Twister??
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Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:01 PM
you have to love those japanese people, they'v got to be the cleanest/nicest people on earth...
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Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:29 PM
Peabody, nice to see your trip report.  I guess I should have written one too, but heck, they take time to do them right, and right you did!  I felt like I was back there again!  Speaking of the Ultra Twister, I rode that thing 6 times!  Loved it.  Love that vertical climb....:)  You made a good point on SD2K too.  Yes, the ride did lose a lot of speed, but I never felt like it lost any drama.  I didn't think that it actually felt so fast anyway.  Yes, I know it is moving very fast, but given its height, it almost felt average. If the ride were shorter, and was going 95mph, it would feel fast, but not this coaster.(do you understand where I am going with this?).  It just felt great, and it was so long, so I could just enjoy looking around.  Great pics on your site too.  How did you sneak the camera on?  They were really hardcore when I was there in July.  Did it rain that day?  Looks cloudy in your pics...  Regardless, nice TR, and glad you had a good time.  Looking forward to reading other reports!  (Hope my advice helped about money:))
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Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:49 AM
Great pictures! I love those giant pirate boats. I find it interesting also that there is still a standard size pirate boat in the same picture.
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Friday, September 21, 2001 2:46 PM
Peabody. I'm curious. Did you ride the huge Pirate Ship? I would imagine that it would be a lot more thrilling than the standard model.
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Friday, September 21, 2001 3:58 PM
Top notch park review and world class photos , added all of them to my screen saver slide show! Wish I had the time and money to go myself ? About your SD2K vs MF statements , I was hopeing for a straight out opinion one was better than the other? Reading between the lines sounded like you prefered the out of control feeling of MF vs the larger more caculated drops on SD2K, either  way Iam sure they bolth rock! Given the angle of decent on MF 80' vs 60' on SD2K I would say #1 drop on earth goes to MF best overall  non inverted steel  would go to SD2K. I guess that just my view on the subject, I guess deep down inside I a little pissed that MF lost most of its records to a coaster over seas ! and with everthing thats going on in the world I bet SD2K will hold that record for sometime to come!
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:01 AM
what were the waits like?
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Friday, November 16, 2001 6:30 AM
Aaaah,   finally testimony that White Cyclone rides as wonderful as it looks.  Now, if a US park would just clone it!  

The giant pirate ship looks like just that is worth a trip there, what a major thrill swinging that high in the air!  Is that a Huss dream boat?

*** This post was edited by super7 on 11/16/2001. ***

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Friday, November 16, 2001 2:27 PM
clone the cyCLONE lol

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Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:48 AM


IGGY "KING OF COASTERS" said:
Top notch park review and world class photos , added all of them to my screen saver slide show! Wish I had the time and money to go myself ? About your SD2K vs MF statements , I was hopeing for a straight out opinion one was better than the other? Reading between the lines sounded like you prefered the out of control feeling of MF vs the larger more caculated drops on SD2K, either  way Iam sure they bolth rock! Given the angle of decent on MF 80' vs 60' on SD2K I would say #1 drop on earth goes to MF best overall  non inverted steel  would go to SD2K. I guess that just my view on the subject, I guess deep down inside I a little pissed that MF lost most of its records to a coaster over seas ! and with everthing thats going on in the world I bet SD2K will hold that record for sometime to come!

Don't count on it.  ;)

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Monday, November 19, 2001 1:03 PM
heh ... I wouldn't count on it at all.  Heide Park is building a 412 footer ... from what I hear.
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Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:16 PM
359 ft.
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So what is better? SFMM or CP? I don't care! They both have 29 coasters between them that they build so we can have a good time!
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