Move Over Millennium

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Monday, July 16, 2001 4:07 PM
(copied from Guide To The Point)

Its no secret that it takes something speical for me to change my coaster list around. I don't see a point in keeping a top ten list but keeping a top two or three of each wood and steel is cool and all I do.

I went down to Kennykon with my parents, my brother (Miss Hover) and Mindy. Now I have only been to MFK once in my life back in 1995. When I was there I got about 30 laps on the Steel Phantom and actually enjoyed the ride. I have had several opportunites to go but I ended up going to CP instead or having inventory.

I will skip the boring details of the day and get to the revenge. The first time we rode we sat in 71, WOW! I was blown away. The first drop is great, I personally love sweeping drops on coasters that don't have OTSRs. The second drop was insane. I loved it. To me the speed going into the first turnaround felt a lot faster than Millennium Force. Then the Gs during the pullout by the T-Bolt and turle were amazing. The dips and the airtime was insane, fast, violent and I just love every second of this ride. I was worried that with the Morgan trains the airtime that I love wouldn't be there. (ie Steel Force has the Morgan trains and I am not a big fan of the airtime) All in all I thought it was amazing. When I got off the train I had this feeling that I have only had twice before in my life and that was when I got off Magnum for the first time and when I got off Shivering Timbers for the first time. It was a feelling of nirvana a feeling that I just can't explain. Its a feeling like OMG this thing should be outlawed becuase it was such a life changing experience.

If I was sentenced to die and I had my choice of Phatom's Revenge or Millennium Force, I would take PR in a heart beat!

1. Magnum Xl 200
2. Phantom's Revenge
3. Millennium Force

1. Shivering Timbers
2. Boulder Dash
3. The Villian


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Dan Haverlock
01 Magnum Count: 430
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Monday, July 16, 2001 10:08 PM
All these reports are just making me itch to get to Kennywood NOW! PR sounds incredible, and I wish I had the time to go and someone to go with. Sounds like I'm missing out on something great. Maybe I can con a friend into going before I go back to school!

I agree, Dan, from what I remember of the old Steel Phantom anyway, that the speed pulling out of the second drop seems so much faster and more intense than the first hill of MF. To think you can now experience it without your head bouncing all over the place!

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Signature Under Construction: A New Adventure Awaits in 2002!
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Monday, July 16, 2001 10:08 PM
I'd have to agree! PR is a masterpiece, and my #1 steel coaster.

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"Quite simply, our goal was to create the single most frightening thrill ride on the planet" -Arrow Dynamics on X.
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Monday, July 16, 2001 11:16 PM
When you mentioned to me in the queue, Dan, that Phantom's Revenge was above Millennium Force, it hit me really hard. First of all, there's not much in my book that can top MF (and personally, PR hasn't done that [yet, anyway, since a rainy-day ride or something might blow me away]). And now that I read MF was your #2 steel coaster, it just threw me for another loop.

The ride is incredible. The airtime is so powerful, it gives the impression something isn't quite right. It sort of made me think, "I shouldn't be this far out of my seat!" It truly is stunning.

Only one ride left me with a bigger post-first-ride buzz, and that's Millennium Force. I couldn't stop saying "Wow!" all the way down the Frontier Trail, and probably would have kept on muttering it had we not decided on a lap on Mean Streak. ;)

Glad you enjoyed your trip. Nice meeting you, too.

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:24 AM
After my first ride on MF I was pretty impressed but the ride wasn't broken in yet and it went by way too fast. I was so ready for Magnum after that.

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Dan Haverlock
01 Magnum Count: 453
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:48 AM
Coaster whore.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:16 AM

Dan said:
"To me the speed going into the first turnaround felt a lot faster than Millennium Force."


See! I knew I wasnt the only one! When I took my first front seat ride on PR, I told GregLeg that it felt every bit as fast as Millie, not to mention that wonderful double-down (which alone put it above Millie)
jeremy

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"Nobody writes about the planes that land." Steve Salerno Washington Times 7-10-01
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:48 AM
Here's some blasphemy for ya:

It's my number two steel as well. And those of you who know what my number two steel previously was...well let's just say I already got an obscene gesture from Magnum Dan about it.

1. Superman: Ride of Steel (SFNE)
2. PHANTOM'S REVENGE
3. Magnum XL-200

Uh oh....

-Natalie
But you guys already knew I was a coaster whore.
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:52 AM
I'm really happy to see PR landing so high on everyone's lists. I've long since given up on ranking coasters (I love too many of them), but for now, with PR, I'm making an exception -- PR is far and away my favorite steel coaster, and that includes Magnum, MF, Nitro...


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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:04 AM
I see I'm not the only one who's top three changed after riding PR. Sorry Dan but Magnum is slowly slipping in my top spots also (after being #1 for 10 yrs.) PR's speed, airtime and smoothness is absolutely amazing. The double-down is the most insane and violent (but not painful) thing I've ever experienced. You said it Dan, it's a feeling you just can't explain. I was expecting a lot from this ride and I got so much more from it. How often can you say that?

#1 - Millennium Force
#2 - Phantom's Revenge
#3 - Magnum

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Christ how do you kids do it *** This post was edited by loriu on 7/17/2001. ***
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:47 AM
Dan doesn't like it when I say Apollo's Chariot is better than Magnum either. :) I don't like to rank rides either, but I'm not sure I'd put PR above the others just yet. I only had one lap, so it's hard to say. That's why I don't rank them!

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:37 PM
Apollo's Chariot is better than Magnum, so what's the problem? ;)

Anyway, I can't wait to ride Phantom's Revenge. Lucky for me, I had one of the best times ever at Kennywood without two of their biggest coasters being open so I can't imagine how much more fun I'll have next time. I'll probobly wait until next year to ride though so I have more time to go to Hershey, Dorney, Knoeble's, and SFGAdv. I might go on over if I decide to make a trip to SFWOA. We'll just have to see. I knew this ride had a lot of potential.
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:32 PM
I didn't realize that "celebrities" post on Coasterbuzz!For those who didn't see it, Dan was featured in the World's Largest Park special on Discovery Channel the other night. He's a Magnum nut!

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Batwing-Bow Down
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Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:52 PM
lol, i get to ride the magnum, mf, and pr in the near future, now, im not a fan of ranking rides either, but we'll see if they can dethrone the 3 b&m hypers...

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B&M Loyalist 4-Life
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Saturday, July 21, 2001 10:42 PM
Man, screw this Millennium Force bashing! :)

I'll have to even the score some. My top three coasters are

1. Millennium Force
2. Nitro
3. Superman RoS SFNE

Uh-oh, where is Phantom's Revenge! Hehehe, don't get me wrong, I freaking ADORE that ride! I mean it is so top 10 it's not even funny, but for *some* reason or another, it just isn't top notch. I really got off the ride in a state described above by Dan. It was something I couldn't explain. I was "Oh ****!" -ing on every hill basically.

BTW, Hostyl, I *totally* disagree with your "wind assessment" between MF and PR (Yay, back to the disagreeing! ;)). I just rode MF front row yesterday (7-21-01) and OMFG...It's so not even close to anything else I've ridden (even Legend, that's scary). Coming into the flat track before last turn with the wind taking over every ounce of my hearing just solidified my love for this coaster. It's phenomenal!

Joe, who wonders when he'll ride a coaster he likes more than MF.

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"No listenin', you hear me?"
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Sunday, July 22, 2001 11:19 AM
OK so now a Raptor freak is going to put her 2 cents worth in. I rode SP 2 years ago and LOVED it-even as brutal as it was-I loved it. I cant wait (next week maybe!!!) to get to KW again and ride it as PR. Now-MF bashing. I have always said that MF is all speed with NO substance. You want substance? Ride Magnum or RAPTOR (sorry 2Hostyl ;)) After MFs 1st hill-ya got, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn .. done. GREAT!
Give me Raptor ANY day over MF. Im hoping I'll love PR as much as I love FOF now too. BTW:
Raptor Jo heading for that other "bird of prey"
next week-going to check out Raptor's brother Talon. Hope I dont like it better than Raptor, that could only mean 1 thing : TATTOO :) !!

Jo
2000 Raptor Crew
2001 Raptor Crew
Po!nter Girl-FOREVER! :)
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When the floor's gone, so are you-see you back here in 2 32!
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Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:36 PM
In complete agreeance LuvRaptor. Most likely I would take Raptor over MF too. For most of the same reasons. Too bad a "space" problem prevented MF from having more substance. Thank Discovery for the "space" comment. Hehe. ;)

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Danny, XPP Staff http://xpp.coasterbuzz.com/

PKI 2002- "The Rollercoast is Toast!"
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Monday, July 23, 2001 6:59 AM
I dont know, MF has pretty much the same problem that Raptor does, too much space between elements. But for some reason, I can tolerate it on Millennium. I really hate long flat pieces of track, but the ones on Millie dont bother me *that* much.

And Legendary, (sorry to say this) but I actually agree that Millennium Force in the front seat is a near nirvana like experience, but in any other seat (even the much adored 5.1) it was just good...not great, GOOD.

And as for PR vs MF wind-wise, I'll stipulate that it might have just been the day I went, but I had ridden MF only two days earlier and some thing seemed 'off' about the ride (which is why I currently rank it behind Magnum). Then I go and ride PR and I get this really intense sensation of speed. Like I said, it's probably the combination of it being a slightly chilly day, the closeness of the T-bolt and surrounding landscape, and the ravine itself being a natural wind-tunnel but PR felt to me every bit as fast as Millennium. I guess this is going to me an "agree to disagree" moment :)
lata,
jeremy

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"Nobody writes about the planes that land." Steve Salerno Washington Times 7-10-01
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