--Dave Althoff, Jr.
All I know is that when we were looking for the SOB walkback tour, we went up to the exit and a teenage girl was being helped off the ride by her boyfriend and the medics from the park. She was holding her head, so I can only assume that she got shaken up pretty badly.
A reprofile Removal of the rose bowl might save the ride in theory but who knows if the parks willing to take that gamble. Shooting Star wasn't exactly a hit in its original helixy form. The clipper.
Anyway, Kings Island could go either way. They took down The Bat; they fixed Flight of Fear. A lot depends on exactly what is wrong (which, let's be honest now, nobody here *really* knows...or if anybody here really does know, that person isn't telling). This latest incident is a structural problem, and there are things that can be done to stiffen the track bed and improve the support of the ride. It has problems with the trains, it has problems with the structure, and neither problem is entirely unsolvable. But that doesn't mean the solution is easy, either.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Yeah, by basically rebuilding the rough parts from the ground up.
They kept the "best" parts of Steel Phantom (The lift to the bottom of the second ("over the bluff") drop) and removed the rough / painful / parts that people complained about (everything after the second drop including all of the inversions).
Could they do this to SOB? Possibly... but basically it would be tearing down everything after the FIRST drop. While you are leaving most of the costly hardware (the lift hill), you still would have a huge bill on your hands because even after the lift hill and first drop you still have a MASSIVE "deconstruction" project.
Besides, even if you would leave the lift and first drop, you still would have a HUGE wooden coaster, and how great have any of them proven to be in the past?
For the cost of that, wouldn't it be better to remove the ENTIRE structure, and build something new in its place. Better to advertise a NEW coaster than a coaster that was patched together out of an old coaster that wasn't too great in the first place.
By the way... that article was probably one of the best written coaster / park related articles I have read in a LONG time.
Taking the second drop structure and part of the midcourse you basically have half the lumber in adding another two straight hills and a turn around, Hell you could even remove the midcourse totally running only two trains and use the lift and final brake and station as your blocks.
Second hill, drop, turnaround, drop, hill, loop drop, final helix and cloverleaf.
Chuck, who thinks M&V were already involved in strengthening the rosebowl two years ago. I may be mistaken but it was whoever redone the fan curve on Papa.
But if they could get Intamin to do the whole thing with Milled wood and their trains problem solved! Except one....we'd all find out how truely crappy and boring the layout is!
It would be VERY expenceve to do a major overhaul of the ride, and it may not even work. You would have to have studies done on the ride plus total track replacement and new trains. So with all of that, it would not warrent fixing.
I think that they should tear it down and build something that will have a better reputation than the s.o.b. It would be a lot cheaper. *** Edited 7/21/2006 4:51:41 PM UTC by crazy horse***
taer it down and build a long GCI with tunnels and mfyers.
If Intamin, GCI, or Gravity Group decides to take-over, or build a new one altogether... It'd be nice if they decided to bring back the inversion because no other wooden coaster in the world has one now, and although it was a gimmick... it was a gimmick that kinda worked.
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