Posted Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:35 AM | Contributed by Jeff
Fans of Disney theme parks and superheroes, brace yourselves. The Marvel universe is coming, and the impact will not be small. The integration of Guardians of The Galaxy at California Adventure and the an Iron Man ride at Hong Kong are just the beginning.
Read more from The LA Times.
I look forward to new Marvel rides, but please, please do not retheme the FL ToT. That ride is perfect, and my favorite non coaster ride in any park.
There is a roller coaster right next door that could use a retheme. Also while the Epcot purist in me bristles a little, I also have no problem with Groot and friends kicking out Ellen and the Dino's.
I will join you in prayer about ToT.
And remember, Ellen had nothing to do with Pure EPCOT, so she, her late, late wedge haircut, and those stinky Dino's can go. I think the Energy corner would be the perfect place for Fl. Tron. And it would be another much-needed "thrill" attraction.
Ellen's Energy is one of only two significant science attractions left (the other being Living With The Land). I'd be sad to see it go if it's not replaced with something else sciencey.
Tron is science... fiction,... but SCIENCE!
^^I would classify Spaceship Earth as Sciencey.
That we're replacing science with superheroes is sadly a reflection of what our culture values today. Anyone else eager for the superhero mania to become exhausted? So many interesting stories to tell and we're stuck with the same thing repackaged over and over again.
Entertainment vs. Edutainment.
SSE is anthropology... is that considered a science? I guess so, it's kind of in between that and history. Definitely an academic pursuit, regardless.
My concern would be installing these attractions in areas where they fit thematically. To me, throwing superheroes into Epcot would fly in the face of everything that park represents, and even with a new vision, how do you reconcile it with the world showcase? For Florida, I feel like the only place Marvel would really fit would be in Hollywood Studios or a new park entirely. I would be extremely disappointed in Disney if they just started throwing these things in as money grabs with little thought given toward thematic cohesiveness, you know, like they just did at California Adventure.
I don't think we have to worry about throwing them in Epcot if the whole universe is covered under Universal's agreement downtown.
I thought Marvel had some lifetime iron-clad non-compete lease with Marvel? Or did that go away when Disney bought Marvel?
Jeff beat me to it...Last edited by ShaneDenmark, Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:51 PM
Characters from the Fantastic Four, Avengers, Spider-man and X-men families can not be used; while that is 90% of the Marvel Universe it does not include these characters:
Big Hero 6 (Baymax meets daily at Epcot)
Doctor Strange (He had a show/meet and greet at DHS as well as an extended movie preview)
Guardians of the Galaxy (Star Lord and Gamora did a meet and greet during the Villian special event two years ago)
I seems as if they're already trying their best to spread the e-tickets around to even up the crowds between parks. Studios will once again be the happening place when Star Wars and Toy Story open and I look for a mad rush into AK's Pandora in a couple of months.
Clearly, Epcot continues to hang in there with huge crowds, and there's not a concierge in town that can snag you a FP for Frozen Ever After. But Future World could sure use a spruceing up with another great e-ticket or two. Money has been spent on attractions, but mainly to change the look or increase capacity. Or slap new colors on aging buildings. In the meanwhile there are three good-sized plots of land- Energy, Imagination, and Body with not much to do these days.
The agreement between Disney and Universal in regard to how Marvel can be used doesn't leave much. Regardless, and as much as I hate to think about it, it sure seems like Epcot would be ripe for it anyway.
Spectacular new things are predicted for Epcot, which was mentioned by someone when news broke of the Skyway project. Whatever could that be?
I would be extremely disappointed in Disney if they just started throwing these things in as money grabs with little thought given toward thematic cohesiveness, you know, like they just did at California Adventure.
Guardians of the Galaxy doesn't fit in Hollywood Land?
Not really in the sense that, as I understand it, you're supposed to be transported into the world of Guardians of the Galaxy and not just experiencing a ride that is sort of a behind-the-scenes look at Guardians of the Galaxy. You have this giant, space-age structure in the middle of what is supposed to be classic Hollywood. I just feel like it clashes.
But then, I feel like the Little Mermaid clashes a bit with the Paradise Pier theme and Monsters, Inc. doesn't seem like it totally fits in with Hollywood Land either, so I guess this isn't that far out of left field for that park. I guess my bigger concern is that the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror with its golden-age-of-Hollywood hotel theming was a very natural fit, and given the ride's gargantuan nature, it felt like it fit in with the whole surrounding resort and even the city as well. It looked like a natural part of the Anaheim skyline.Last edited by sirloindude, Thursday, March 2, 2017 10:22 PM
Cinemagique, the amazing show at Walt Disney Studios in Paris, is supposedly closing at the end of the month. The rumored replacement is some kind of Marvel show, which would be an odd choice if it came to be. It is quite far from Rock n Roller Coaster which has long been rumored to be getting a Spiderman or some kind of Marvel character retheme. Spiderman currently does meet and greet at the park, so there is a Marvel presence already at the park.
It is in Hong Kong that the major Marvel attractions will first appear. The Hong Kong Disneyland concept art in the original article is for a Ant-Man or some other character retheme of Buzz Lightyear Astroblasters in Hong Kong. Next to it, Autopia was removed for a mystery giant Marvel e-ticket with a current 2023 opening date. It is sad since Autopia there used awesome electric cars and one of the 3 track had a Peoplemover like elevated section above Tomorrowland.
Tokyo Disneyland also removed their car ride this year and the replacement is a huge Beauty and the Beast area, a new theater and Tomorrowland will get slightly expanded with a Big Hero 6 spinning ride.
Current rumor for WDW is that indeed, Ellen will get the boot for a Guardians of the Galaxy coaster. There are quite a few changes coming to Epcot and one I would like to see is Paris Ratatouille ride appear in the France pavilion. A perfect lift would be to take the Paris area and just plop it down behind the current pavilion as an extension. The ride in Paris includes a restaurant and the concept would work perfect at Epcot: 34$ US for a Salad appetizer and then a choice of either a grilled steak with fries and the proverbial "Ratatouille", Roasted Cod or a Vegetarian Casserole.
The menu at the restaurant in Paris. Figure the exchange rate between the Euro and US$ is almost at par (1.05$ for one euro).Last edited by Absimilliard, Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:07 PM
Spectacular new things are predicted for Epcot....
Spectacular indeed :)
You have this giant, space-age structure in the middle of what is supposed to be classic Hollywood. I just feel like it clashes.
This exactly. I can go to the local Six Flags to see clashing superhero theming. I expect a more cohesive experience from Disney. Guardians of the Galaxy plopped down in Hollywood is like Superman plopped down in New Orleans at SFGAm.
But ToT isn't really in the middle of anything. Is off by itself. They can completely redo the plaza around it and have room behind it to add additional Marvel theming.
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