More attendance records toppled, Holiday World plans expansion

Posted Monday, August 12, 2002 4:46 AM | Contributed by Raven Maven

For the second week in a row, attendance records at Holiday World & Splashin' Safari have been shattered as a record number of visitors vacationed at the theme and water park combo.

“We’re taking a hard look at what ride or attraction to add for next season,” says Will Koch, the parks’ president. “The key words in our 2003 expansion search are ‘quality’ and ‘capacity.’”

Koch says this year's attendance explosion has caused him to be faced with a new challenge. “In the past, it's always been ‘build it and they will come,’” he explains. “But for 2003, it's ‘they’re coming—so build something!’”

Overall, seasonal attendance at Holiday World & Splashin' Safari continues to surpass last year's record season by 21 percent.

Saturday, August 10, a record number of 16,222 guests visited the parks, toppling the record set just last Saturday. In addition, the parks set a new weekday record of 11,722 on Friday. And the week of August 5 through 11 surpassed the previous week’s record attendance by 13 percent, as the parks hosted nearly 80,000 visitors.

Although Koch has not yet made a decision regarding what to add to Holiday World & Splashin' Safari for the 2003 season, he promises to make a decision and announce the parks’ expansion project in the fall.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 5:00 AM
This is wonderful news... congrats HW. People sure do love this park, any wonder why?

As far as new attractions....

After having experienced the "Flying Super Saturator" at Carowinds a few weeks ago, I personally think that type of attraction could be a home run for the park.

It is family/kid oriented. It would finally give them a larger sized steel coaster without breaking the bank, and it would also be seen by the GP as a water ride which we all know that the waterpark is the bread and butter of HW. The ride is great fun, and would seem to be the type of ride that would work well for Holiday World.

Shaggy

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Shaggy

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Monday, August 12, 2002 5:10 AM

But is the Swing Thing a high capacity ride?

Don't think so... :(

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Monday, August 12, 2002 5:33 AM
Build 2!!

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Monday, August 12, 2002 5:44 AM
Well, we are pretty sure it'll be steel this year. Another woodie would be fine, but they do need a steel to add to their lineup. If they want a family coaster, the Super Saturator would be great, because it has much more lasting appeal than a regular family coaster. But a new thrill coaster would probably work well too, as long as they kept up the family atmosphere. We all know it probably wouldnt be a B&M. They are to expensive. We all hope it wont be Vekoma, even though I heard the tilt coaster was pretty smooth. It costs about 10 million, even though it has a more basic layout than a hobo's house. Anyway, enough with my rambling.
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Monday, August 12, 2002 5:55 AM

I cannot see HW jumping into a major steel coaster so quickly. It would make sense that they would start off smaller and work up to larger rides.

Also, selfishly I would hope HW would steer clear of "shelf" rides. IMO they have done a great job of collecting an good eclectic mix of offerings (especially with the woodies) which are pretty unique to HW.

HW does not strike me an an inversion park. So I cannot forsee something like an SLC or multilooper at HW.

Shaggy

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Shaggy

R.I.P. Maestro
Phantom Theater 1992-2002

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Monday, August 12, 2002 6:04 AM
Why would it neet to be something with a large capacity?
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Monday, August 12, 2002 6:26 AM

Because they are getting very high attendence so they would like something or somewhere to put all these people.

I think a GCI racing/dueling coaster would be good for capacity. If they go with steel then they should get a B&M invert or two to make dueling inverts like Dueling Dragons. If they build anything else. I'm not sure what flatride would be good capacity. Or they could always just add a show. Just hope it wouldn't be something stupid.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 6:38 AM
Interesting, if there looking for quality, GCI, Intamin, B&M, maybe premier. Don't know alot about premier rides, but after the change to lapbars at PKI on there ride (can't think of the name of the ride now...not enough coffee in me yet) I find there rides great. So those would be companies I would look at. If they get steel it is usually going to be pricy, so you might as well go with the "quality" and get something from the steel companies above. GCI dualing woodie, Intamin hyper, B&M hyper, flyer, invert, floorless would all be good choices. Or a premier launched dark ride. My 2 cents

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Monday, August 12, 2002 6:47 AM

Congrats to Holiday World on their awesome attendance numbers.. How close are you guys to 750k? 1 million??? 1 million would be an AMAZING feat for you guys.. I have my fingers crossed!!!!

Dueling B&M inverts.. Come on.. Holiday World has increased attendance, but not by that much. Dueling Inverts would be 20 million easy....Swing things are good, but their capacity is horrible.


The thing that stands out in my head that the park definitely needs is a themed Sally Dark ride. Maybe something Christmas themed would help out that ailing area of the park. Also a custom christmas carousel from Chance/Morgan would be awesome. Imagine riding reindeers, sleds, and chimneys! :) Also, Splashin' Safari could use some speed slides. Add to both parks and the people will most definitely come ;)

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:19 AM
I have had an idea for a year that a small Arrow looper like Tennesee tornado would fit in very very well at HW. Back in the woods, unobtrsive, painted brown. It would blend right in.

Also I have rode both Roller Soaker and Super Saturator and they are loads of fun even if the water effects aren't on like I experienced with Super Saturator as it was still April. That would also work great.

Or how bout an S&S double shot in the 4th of July Section themed as The Firecracker or The Bottle Rocket.

Another and quite logical idea would be a Mine Ride, as that would fit in great there.

In all reality we will most likely see a water ride but if not there are a lot of possibilities.
If it is a water ride I would be happy to see a Shoot the Chutes.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce on 8/12/2002. *** *** This post was edited by MagnumForce on 8/12/2002. ***

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:22 AM

Thanks, Chris...we're just amazed with how this season has boomed.

We should end the season around 760,000. In fact, on Wednesday (Mrs. Koch's birthday) we should surpass last year's final attendance figure. Happy Birthday, Pat! :)

Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:41 AM
I see a morgan or intamin junior hyper, or a indoor launched premier coaster.
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Monday, August 12, 2002 7:42 AM
Mamoosh's avatar Congratulations to Will, Pat, Paula and everyone at Holiday World.

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Matthew "mamoosh" Sullivan
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Monday, August 12, 2002 9:26 AM

OK folks, time for a reality check. Holiday World will not be able to afford a dueling B&M inverted coasters for a long long time. In fact, anything more than about 15 million is well out of reach for the park. HersheyPark had their first 2 million visitor season in the mid-nineties and then installed their first big ticket attraction, The Great Bear, in 1998.

Holiday World is a small park, so for them, 15,000 guests in a day is a big deal. A ride like the Super Saturator would provide plenty of capacity in addition to being a great hit with guests. Additionally, it would provide great marketing potential being the only ride of it's kind in the region.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 9:46 AM

Personally if it's going to be a coaster I definately think that one of the new and improved Arrow coasters would be a good choice if you could get them to do it with all their recent troubles.

But an expansion can be excellent even if it's a non-coaster expansion. The Huss "Giant" rides provide very VERY good capacity and would probably thrill as well as a coaster.

But then again this is a family park and if they continue to attract the FAMILY then the attendance will continue to grow, so hmmmmm seems to me they have a lot of family rides already I can't think of another one off the top of my head that has good capacity.

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Monday, August 12, 2002 9:51 AM
Mamoosh's avatar For once can't people just give their congratulations without giving their .02 cents on what they think is the best addition to the park? Don't you all think the park will make the best decision possible and THEN ask for our input if they want it?

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Matthew "mamoosh" Sullivan
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Monday, August 12, 2002 10:23 AM
Point taken Mamoosh,

I personally did not mean to lead anyone to believe that HW "needs" anything, nor to assert myself as any type of authority over what HW should or should not do. Actually I have a big "issue" with "needs" posts.

But it is fun to imagine what they may be thinking. It is also fun to think of what is suitable for parks we each hold dear to our hearts. That is what makes these boards fun... speculation. But there is a reality to all of this.

That reality is the park knows best what the park should do in the future. The good folks at HW have always done a stellar job, so far be it to bestow my limited knowledge on what may be good for them.

I will say in conclusion that HW did ask enthusiasts what they wanted a few years back.... and look how that turned out... Legendary.

Shaggy - Eating crow.

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Shaggy

R.I.P. Maestro
Phantom Theater 1992-2002

*** This post was edited by Shaggy on 8/12/2002. ***

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Monday, August 12, 2002 10:25 AM

Not to worry, Moosh. In fact, Will and I were laughing about it last night when I was getting ready to write the news release. We knew there'd be tons of input from the enthusiasts!

We should have an announcement about...whatever it (or they) will be...probably by the end of September.

Thanks, Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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Monday, August 12, 2002 10:30 AM

Shaggy--

Eating crow? Isn't that in reference to Indiana's *other* park? :)

We're happy to see enthusiasts' suggestions...the only ones that are hard to take are the insulting ones. But they fall into the "consider the source" category.

Believe me, I'm on pins and needles, too. I can't wait to find out what the final answer(s) might be!

Hope to see you at the GOCC event! Paula

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Paula Werne
Director of Public Relations
Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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