Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:05 PM
This is likely to always going to be amoung my top 5 coasters. It was my #1 favorite coaster since it opened till just this year. Why is it so unmentioned on the forums here? (I think I still rate it #2 or #3 ... can't decide.)
Sit in the front seat, and on a good day, the acceleration and G's into the loop are incredible. The air backwards and speed through through the station are pretty good too.
I rode MR the first year it opened and I was only 11 at the time. It was the longest wait in the hottest weather. It was worth it!
I took my two oldest kids on it 4 years ago ( my youngest was to short). It was their first "real" coaster. That acceleration and inversion, and backwards was to much for them to handle. I could NOT get them, despite enourmous amounts of dictatorship, they ran out the que line backwards, past others, to avoid being "hit in the gut" by this "evil machine" again.
To this date, no other coaster has affected any of my kids with the same extreme sensations that ole Montezooma's Revenge has. Even my youngest was more afraid to reride Monte then he was a year later to ride Goliath.
So, I guess, it can't be just me that finds this ride at least a bit extreme.
Given a choice between SFMM STE and KBF MR, I have to take the latter every time. Even my kids found S:TE boring (might have something to do with riding in the car at speeds up to 105mph, 5mph faster then S:TE)?
Are there any comparable shuttles still in service in the USA?
Do any of the current LIM lauch coasters compare in rate of acceleration?
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:09 PM
Yes, I LOVE Montezooma's Revenge! I think it has one of the best launches out there. As you can see, I have been on most premier coasters, and the launch on MR rivals all of those. The only coaster that I've been on with a clearly better launch would have to be Volcano: The Blast Coaster. As for a Shuttle Loop that can rival it, Greezed Lightnin' at Six Flags Astroworld is just about as good. The one at PGA is pretty bad. I think only the flywheel ones are intense.
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:29 PM
Greezed Lightnin' at Six Flags Astroworld should be just about as good as Monte. After all, they share maintence tips and such.
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Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:31 AM
MR is very old and there are many other shuttle loop clones. That is why you hear little about it. I enjoy it and it does have quite an amazing launch considering the launch system was designed so long ago, before all this LIM technology came about. The first time I went to Knotts it was very empty and there were NO lines. We had just ridden boomerang and headed for MR. I did not know what it was and by the layout, it looked like a reverse pull and drop, the same as boomerang. Since there were no lines, I never had an opportunity to see it go before riding it. Believe me, when you are expecting to be lifted slowly backward, but instead are catapulted forward, it is quite frightening. I would make it a point to ride MR one time when I go, but the only real draw to Knotts is GhostRider. Personally, I think Superman:ULTIMATE Escape at SFWoA has the best LIM launch, and return accelleration. V2 should be the same, but I havent been to SFMW.
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Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:27 PM
I loved Monte! My first ride was in the front seat since there was no one in the station at the time. I feel the launch is just as good as Superman Ultimate Escape, V2, and Flight of Fear.
I did find that Greased Lightning at PGA was more weaker in comparison. Too bad they don't make shuttles like Monte anymore.
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 3:37 PM
I love that coaster. It's always a "Must hit at least 10 times" coaster while @ KBF. That's mainly because they only have 3 coasters worthy to ride (sorry to anyone who likes to go on Tmberline Twister;)) But yeah, that was the first coaster I ever wenton that goes upside down and was also my first launch coaster. If they do hav to tear it out (please God no) then the should replace it with a flying coaster shuttle loop. I.E., you get in the car facing up at the station, then the track does a 180 turn so you're facing down and the get launched. Sounds fun huh :)
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:12 PM
About 5 years ago, I took my then 89 year old grandmother to Knott's, and she kept looking at Montezooma's Revenge commenting that she thought that it looked fun.
Just so you know some background - the story my grandmother tells of her roller coaster past, is that she and my grandfather would go down to Long Beach to ride the roller coaster after eating canned peaches all week to save their money - so she's not ignorant about what she was looking at.
Anyway, she finally said she wanted to ride it, and after asking the attendants if there was any reason why she couldn't ride, and they couldn't find any, we walked up and got on.
The faces of the other rides were pretty funny as she got in, and a kid behind us said "Mom, that lady is gonna die". Which my grandmother didn't hear, but I was cracking up over.
Anyway, she loved the ride, when it was over - but she did say to me back in the station, "They kind of gyp you on that one, the way it's over so fast".
I was glad she rode it, and I could tell she was excited to be able to do it as well, and whenever I go on Montezooma's Revenge, that's the story I remember it for - as well as it being a really good coaster.
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:25 PM
bunchastuf, Great story. Schwarkopf shuttles are INTENSE! If at all possible, ride with your hands up the whole way, backwards too. Saying goodbye to the beloved Viper was very sad. At least I got a BUNCH of rides on hiss(!) last day. Viper - the coaster that ssstruck me more than twice! Sad that I missed the TT at Knott's, didn't even SEE it - SAW the now destroyed WindJammer - NEVER got to ride that...;-(! I will make sure to get to TT (and the ever-funky Jaguar!) during CoasterCon next year!!!
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 5:47 PM
hey bunchastuf, that was an awesome story!! :) thanks for sharin it. i remember last year when i got my mom on Apollos Chariot...shes not that old, but shes DEATHLY afraid of coasters!! so i kinda see what ya mean. but anyways, i really enjoyed the story!! post stuff like that more often :) and Sprig, ive never ridden a Swarzkopf shutle, but man i sure hope to before they are all gone!!
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 8:39 PM
What can I say..
I have been on it exactly 34 times and have never been dissapointed!
There is the most incredible feeling in the back seat, coming out of the loop backwards.
its like you are floating backwards through the loop...
I love that feeling!
By the way, for a coaster of its age, Monte is discussed pretty often on Coasterbuzz.
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:31 PM
Thanks Vacoaster, and Gater... that's the short version of the story too!
My grandmother is also the one to take me on my first "big" coaster ride when I was really little - which was the Matterhorn at Disneyland. It was a big deal for me at the time!
So it all comes around to make sense that I am the one to take her on Montezooma's Revenge all those years later...
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:39 PM
honestly i get a bigger rush off of MR than SMTE at SFMM it just grabs your gut more you know .i get the feeling like im taking off on an aircraft carrier on MR than i am on SMTE
dont get me wrong SMTE is still an intense ride but you dont get the acceleration as fast as MR. stomach in your mouth type feeling on MR.
elevated track in the sky is the only way to fly.
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:41 PM
bunchastuf, Great story. Schwarkopf shuttles are INTENSE! If at all possible, ride with your hands up the whole way, backwards too.
IF possible! Roflmao! On a good launch, in the front seat, it may in fact not be possible on the first ride to figure out how to keep your hands up. The launch throws your arms backwards, so you need to hold them forward, but the loop will hit you with some G's and if you haven't started holding your arms to the rear, the G's may pull hands down close to the lap bar!
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:46 PM
yah sprig and if you are not used to the loop you are gona get a big surprise of what positive g's really mean. maybe even brownouts ville
elevated track in the sky is the only way to fly.
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 8:31 AM
Yeah, I sure hated to say godbye to Viper, even if I only got to SFoG a few times (5+ hr. drive). Held my hands up every time...sure will miss Anton AND his creation ;-(! Oh well, El Escorpion at BGT is still two hours away, even if it has no launch, and SFoG still has the fan-tabulous Mindbender...I'll get my fix for launched Schwarzkopf (and more) at CoasterCon '02! Last couple rides (hope there's pictures), we formed a V overhead with our hands...goodbye Viper, wish you well in your new home, with your new friends...
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*** This post was edited by gatorwoodie on 10/3/2001. ***