"Midwestern Wood" : PKI / Holiday World : Tips?

"Isn't it good?"

Alright Buzzers. On Tuesday morning, cernelli and I will be setting sail from The Capital Of The World, Uniontown, on our way to Paramount's Kings Island and Holiday World on a two-day trek through the Midwest.

These two parks are probably among the most talked about here on CoasterBuzz, so I know you guys are full of untapped info on how to have a great time at both places. Joe and I have never been to either park, so any information is appreciated.

Certain points I'd like to hear about, though, are things that we might otherwise overlook. Obviously, we'll try to ride all the coasters at both parks, but what shouldn't we miss? Any strange flat rides? Restaurants? Photo ops? How about this one: I really get a kick out of miniature railroad-type things. Do PKI or Holiday World have a worthwhile train? Preferably, they'll go thru the woods and away from the park. (I guess you could count The Beast in that category, eh?)

Again, any and all information is appreciated. (Although, I must say, neither of us are extremely big on water rides or waterparks, so unless there's really a stand-out attraction, I guess you can hold back on that.) Thanks!

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Matt Lynch, who hopes everyone gets the Beatles-inspired moniker we gave this trip...
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
I get the Beatles allusion now, but I must admit that my first thought when I read the title wasn't quite so wholesome...

Can't help you with Holiday World, but PKI has a Flying Scooters ride. Other than that and Drop Zone, their flat ride collection is nothing spectacular. They also have a miniature train that takes you through the woods of Rivertown to their Waterpark (sort of away from the park, but I've never ridden it to know how much).

Also be sure to get a night ride on the Beast (which hasn't happened to me the past few years due to thunderstorms and breakdowns :( ). Between Beast and Raven, you'll get to ride two of the greatest night rides out there...I'm jealous.

Have a great trip!

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CCI + CP = #1 Wooden Coaster.
A few points I'll add:

Ride The Beast in the front at least once, preferably at night. The slow drop into the helix is one of the greatest elements in existance.


Don't miss the train at HW. It sounds like you'll love this - it's the oldest ride there.

There's also a doll museum at HW that I find interesting. It's kinda hard to find, so look for it.

You can mail Christmas cards from there. They'll hold them until December before they send them out. That way, they're post-marked from Santa Claus.

Oh yeah - the Lincoln museum is in the glass blowing shop.

The Raven and Legend will both pick up speed throughout the day. Ride often!

Have a great trip!

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So many coasters - so little time.
Ohh the beast, front row, and night, its great.

If its really hot when you go, ride Congo Falls, then Drop Zone, then Congo Falls, SOB. and repeat that during the hot part of the day (if you go on a day where lines are low of course)
Even if you don't like drop rides, stand near the base of Drop Zone when it comes down. It's a blast. :)

Also, don't skip Beastie. It's one of the best Junior Coasters anywhere. A John Allen masterpiece.
Legend is the only coaster taking Photo's this year. The Raven used too, but it was taken out. The legend's Camera is when the train passes under the log flume.

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My favorite Coaster is named after Poop, and I actually like Boomerangs! What is wrong with me?
Thanks for all the information so far.

Sadly, night rides on Raven and Legend aren't gonna happen on this trip. The park closes at 6:PM the day we'll be there. However, since our hotel is so close to PKI, I'd imagine we'll be staying at the park past sundown, or at least, go back into the park after dusk.

I'll be sure to hit HW's train now. Thanks. Also, I actually plan on sending a Christmas card. Just to be comical. ;)

Kind of interesting about Legend being the coaster with the on-ride. Almost like Knoebels: I wanted an on-ride from Phoenix, but the only one in the park is on Legend!

Your note about Beastie reminds me: What coasters in the park are strictly-kids? I know there are about three or four kiddie coasters in the park, but which ones can't we "adults" ride?

Thanks again!

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
I'm speaking for PKI only here. I know nothing much about Holiday World.

For Kiddie Coasters: Beastie is really uncomfortable for adults. Your knees get pressed up against the seat in front of you and I've heard you can touch the "Please Stay Seated" sign on the top of the lift hill.

Must Ride: Son of Beast, Drop Zone, Racer (forwards and back), Flight of Fear, Beast, and Vortex.
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Son of Beast is rough...so what? That's the way I like it!
It's true. Last time I rode Beastie, I barely touched the "Pleased Stay Seated" sign. Let's just say we were on our way down the hill and I thought I had broke a couple fingers. Anyway, the best way to tackle PKI is to start in the back of the park with Beast because you can almost walk on it. Then hit Vortex, Flight of Fear, and Racer (forwards and backwards). After that then head into the Action Zone as it is the busiest place in the park in the morning. By starting in the back, by the time you get there, a good deal of people should have moved on. Expect long waits on Face/Off, Top Gun, and King Cobra. Expect a long line for Son of Beast (if it's working) but the line moves fast on it. Also don't forget to ride the water rides in the middle of the day. Congo Falls for a big splash, or if you really want to get wet, ride White Water Canyon. Also there is Wild Thornberry's River Adventure (Kings Mill Log Flume).

Somewhere between 9:00-9:30 pm is the best time to get in line for Beast for that night ride which is one of the best rides you'll ever take.

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Vortex rules!!!! (still) *** This post was edited by bigjas on 8/12/2001. ***
Try the 7th Portal 3-D ride. It surprised me how good it was. Need to try to sit in the back/middle though to get the best effect. And don't miss Flight of Fear. It's kinda hidden on the other side of the Racers, and speaking of that, ride the Racer backwards!! A side note on the train ride. Before they announced the Tomb Raider ride, I rode the train and as soon as you leave the Rivertown station, you got a great unobstructed view of the barren land where the old log flume was. Haven't been back yet, but if they've started building anything, you should be able to see it as long as they haven't put a fence over there yet. My 2 cents...
OH!!!! Almost forgot! At Holiday World, they just got brand new bumper cars this year. Freaky ones like I haven't seen before in the shape of horses and bulls. Their eyes glow!!! The bumper car station itself is pretty small, but that's very good because these things are quiet, smooth, and FAST as hell! This little kid kept ramming me and it hurt! I loved it. Best little bumper cars I'd ever ridden. Pretty freaky when a red headed kid comes flying at you with a bull that has glowing eyes! GLOWING EYES THAT WILL HAUNT ME FOREVER!!!

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Heh!
On your drive from PKI to HW, you might consider stopping off at SFKK. You’ll practically drive right past it (20 minute detour at most), parking is only $3, and they have a decent selection of coasters (Thunder Run being an exceptionally good woodie – even after riding Raven and Legend). You can easily do HW and SFKK on one day… and remember that you get an extra hour at HW due to the time zone change.

Have Fun
Kip
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For a cool flat ride, try the Flyers at PKI. You have probably already been on this type of ride. Swing ride with sails for maneuvering? I had a pretty wild ride on it. Accross from Vortex.

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Yeeee Haaawwww!
What is the point of this thread. :)
Kings Island has the best flyers ride in the world. It came from Coney in Cincy and survived all the floods! Ride it a few times and get them cables snappin'!! They also are the last Paramount park to operate a railroad. Not only that, it is authentic steam powered and goes through beautiful terrain back to WaterWorks. Vortex and Legend are my fav. coasters in the world, so be prepared! Phantom Theater is also a delight.

Hey Gemini, are you having nightmares over that kid?? :)
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It's really sad you won't be able to ride The Legend and The Raven at night...this is when these rides are at their best. You can notice a big change throughout the day. It the morning, The Rave seems somewhat forceless, but in the late afternoon and night it screams through the forest. The Legend on the other and is intense whenever you ride...but for an over-intense/insane ride, the night is where it's at. This thing is awesome! You can't see where you're going, and the forces at the bottom of the first hill are VERY strong.

I recommend spending some time at the water park. Some of their water slides looked pretty sweet. You should also try the rapids ride there.

Hope that helps.
I wasn't having nightmares until YOU brought it up! Thanks! :)
Well, thanks everybody! I'll be leaving in in about four and a half hours, and I'll try to remember everything you suggested!

Thanks again!

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
Talk about somebody who was MADE for HW's train - man, irony is so SWEET!

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