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Timber-Rider said:
My next question is for Swoosh. I'm just curious about how you can have a platinum pass, and say that you paid 0 dollars for everything. It may seem like you are getting things for free as you certainly aren't. Unless you are getting perks the rest of us are not getting.
Well first off I stand by the saying that "if you are looking for a bad time, you are probably going to find it" -- like I said above, we had a great time at the park.
Now regarding the Platinum Pass. Originally I bought the pass when it was on sale, so it was no where near what it costs now ($150) -- but just using that number I think I've gotten my money's worth this season already.
That's over $300 and that is not including all the different times I have been to WOF/OOF already this season. If you want to look at something even funnier, you should see how SF is getting ripped off by me as well. :)
So, yes you are right. It cost money to get a Platinum Pass -- but you know what... KI, CP, CW, MiA and VF never saw a penny of it. It all went to WOF, which is where I wanted the money to go in the first place.
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I don't usually do this on here, but here is our Trip Report from our day at MiA: http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/migcrew/mia_cq08/
*** Edited 6/26/2008 5:06:30 AM UTC by Swoosh***
SWOOSH -- MidwestInfoGuide.COM
Rye.D.Ziner said:
I give this park one or two more seasons until Cedar Fair auctions off everything to concentrate resources on their newly acquired and better attended Paramount parks. sad
I dont know where you are coming from with this, I've heard that this parks attendance has been growing, and why would they add and refurbish a ride if they plan to take it down in a year or two?
Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers
I work third shift and sleep in the afternoon so most of my visits are in the first hour or two on weekdays to get my ST fix. But I will continue to monitor the situation.
My name is Mike, and I'm a coasterholic.
Just to give you an idea of how lame my park visit was a MA. Here is what I did in 4 hours.
I arrived at the park around 3, and went straight to Thunderhawk, saw the long line, so I took some photos with my digital camera, then got in line for my first Half hour wait for Thunderhawk. I enoyed the ride, then got in line again. Another 20 to 30 minute wait. Exited the ride, and took a few more pictures. Then waited another 20 minutes for my third ride.
From there I went to the other side of the park, staright to Shvering Timbers. I got on right away, with no wait, and rode 2 times back to back with no wait, just stopping at the photo booth long enough to be scolded for sticking out my tounge a few times.
From there I went straight to The wildcat for a boring no wait ride. (The tunnel is pitch black now) But, it was pretty boring, the double down still rough. So, I didn't want to ride that again. So took a long walk down to the corkscrew for a no wait ride. Only myself and one other kid on the entire ride. Boring again.
From there, I spent about 5 minutes in the gift shop looking around. Then did a restroom break. Then I went back over to thunderhawk for two more rides and two more 20 minute waits. Then back over to Shivering Timbers for a few more back to back rides, then back to Thunderhawk, for my last rides, and more waiting in line. I got my on ride video of Thunderhawk, and left the park.
I did not go on any other rides, didn't play any games, did not go to the water park. I would say that I spent a good portion of my day waiting in line for Thunderhawk. That's about it.
I might have stopped for a minute, to see how much a cheeseburger was. I'll tell you...too darn much! So, I din't buy any food, and might have sat down once for 5 minutes to rest.
So, you tell me, does that sound like 4 hours of fun?
Just for more info, here's what my normal visit to MA would be like. Including a visit from last year.
At least a dozen rides Shivering Timbers, a few spins on the Wildcat and corkcrew, add the Mad Mouse a few times. Do couple of spins on almost every flat ride in the park. My favorites are the Swings, bumper cars, and the tilt-a-whirl.
Do at least a couple rides on the log ride, and still have an hour or two to play in the water park. I might do a couple rides on adventure falls, and the hydroblaster, and hit Grand Rapids a couple times if the line isn't too long.
Which visit sounds like more fun? *** Edited 6/27/2008 3:48:26 AM UTC by Timber-Rider***
You can go to it by selecting 1 year from page lists. I believe my post is on page 13. I also have a second post on page 12 for my visit to Cedar Point last summer, including my rides on Top Thrill dragster and Maverick. Also a good visit.
Just want you guys to know, I am happy sometimes.
Timber-Rider said:Did 8 rides on Thunderhawk, 6 back to back rides on ST with no wait. And, went home.
That's a lot of riding!
Timber-Rider said:At least a dozen rides Shivering Timbers, a few spins on the Wildcat and corkcrew, add the Mad Mouse a few times. Do couple of spins on almost every flat ride in the park. My favorites are the Swings, bumper cars, and the tilt-a-whirl.
You could have skipped the lousy Thunderhawk and had that same visit if you wanted! Your blaming the park for making you stand in a 20 minute line when you had the rest of the park to yourself. I don't get it.
SWOOSH -- MidwestInfoGuide.COM
So, why should I be content riding the rides I have already been on a zillion times, when the park is advertising a new coaster, that they should be proud to run at full capacity to entertain their paying guests, no matter if they are entusiasts, a first time visitor, or someone who lives around the corner.
Their television add says now you can fly. If they continue running it like they are, they should run a disclaimer. "Seats subject to availabilty at the parks leisure." Which is something I am not ok with. And, it is exactly what they are doing.
This is a question you need to ask yourself. If they are doing this at MA. How long do you think it will be before they start doing this on the coasters at your favorite park.
Forget Thunderhawk, leats say they were running one train on Shivering Timbers, only filling every other seat and the line was an hour long? Or maybe on a coaster at your favorite park. Or, say they decide to only run every coaster at cedar point with just one train and only fill every other seat with a 4 hour wait for each coaster. Every day.
Would you still be ok with it? Or, would you be just as upset as I am about my park visit. The point is the Park should not be able to get away with pulling stuff like this. If you let them get away with it without raising a little hell, they are going to do it over and over. Then find somewhere else to make changes at your expense.
I am not ok with that at all.
Corkscrew came along in '79 or '80 and I believe was the only roller coaster in MI at the time and I would ride it over and over whenever I could get there. By the time Wolverine Wildcat opened in 1988 I was a working stiff and did not go but maybe every other year. When a trip to Cedar Point was canceled last min. in June of '88 I went to DPF instead. There was the threat of rain all day so the rides were a walk-on. Rode WW about 50 times along with several rides on everything else. Would make a yearly visit through the '90s.
If I remember right the name changed to Michigan's Adventure about '93 when they put in the water park. There was another water park just south of Muskegon on Black Lake called Pleasure Island. It was alright but nothing compared to MIA's and they closed a few years later.
When ST opened in '98 I could not wait to ride it but my fiance and I were saving up for a house so we cut all spending. We did finaly go in July and she rode ST with me once. That was enough for her. I rode ST 4 times that day and would not get to ride again until 2000.
Up until this point I lived about a half hour away from the park. Then in July of '88 we bought a house that is 15 min. away. Spent the rest of '98 and all of '99 working on the house, getting ready for the wedding, and working mega overtime at my job.
We made a couple trips to the park in 2000. Then in Sep. of 2000 the wife started a new job on second shift. Since she would not be home in the evening I got a season pass for '01 (Chrismas gift from Mom & Dad). I would drop by the park once or twice a week for the last hour and get in 6 or 7 rides on ST and maybe one or two other rides just to mix things up. Did not take long to figure out that if it rained most of the day and cleared up in the evening, the park would be empty and I could get several re-rides. Would spend a day here and there with the wife and some friends, mostly in the water park. Did this the next couple years.
Did not go in '04. Spent the summer putting on a new roof. In '05 I started a new job and got divorced. But did get a season pass again and went in the evenings. Moved to third shift in '06 so I started going in the morning for an hour or so. Once or twice I will go in the evening before work if it has been raining. There are no re-rides but there is but maybe a one train wait for ST.
I think parking in '01 was $5. I had a season parking sticker ($25) but soon found out that if you show up an hour before closing there was nobody at the parking ticket booths. So you could just drive in for free. Now there is someone there right up till closing.
The only time one train is running on ST is if the park is really slow or if one is pulled for maint. Last time I rode TH they were only filling every other row but both trains were running and there was no wait. Timber-Rider makes a good point. Why not fill the train(s) if the line is backed up 20 min. or more? The longest I had to wait for TH was not much over 10 min. and that was openning weekend.
Hope that wasn't to long winded.
My name is Mike, and I'm a coasterholic.
I also remember feeding the deer, back when you could actually walk among them and pet them. You could feed the deer up until the corkscrew was built. After that they were penned in, and you couldn't really pet them any more. They took them out after that. I also loved the old train ride that once circled the park through the woods. Back when the park was heavily wooded, and very shadey.
My favorite ride at the park was the Spider. I would ride it over and over. Not sure what year it was taken out. But I sure miss riding it. Another ride that was removed was Mutley's Putt Putts. That was a really cool antique car ride. The only ride at the park that ever had a line. It was pretty much destroyed by a tornado that took down a good portion of the woods in the park back in the 80's. Today the parks entrance gates, and the big dipper sit where the putt putts were located.
I also remember the old bumper cars. I liked those better than the dodgems from cedar point. Didn't it have a center rail, so you almost had to drive around in a circle? It's been so long. I forget. But, those bumper cars sure were fun. I think they were destroyed by the tornado was well. The first drummer boy ride was also smashed by the tornado.
I also remember the old picnic pavilions they had there. Back when you used to be able to bring your own food to the park. One reason my dad liked taking us there. I think pop and a hot dog was only $1.00
My dad talked my mom into riding the corkscrew she rode it with her eyes closed, and was terrified the whole ride. Funny stuff since she rode the Whizzer at Great America with me the year before with no problem. We're talking back to 1979. *** Edited 6/29/2008 6:03:10 PM UTC by Timber-Rider*** *** Edited 6/29/2008 6:12:46 PM UTC by Timber-Rider***
My name is Mike, and I'm a coasterholic.
MA wasn't the only place in Michigan that suffered damage from the storms that year. The storms also flipped over trailers at the beach in Grand Haven, and did some serious damage to some condos over by spring lake.
I was actually at the park the day that they were cutting away the old trees. nothing but stumps as far as you could see. Also saw how badly damaged the drummer boy ride was, two of the cars were smashed down like a tin can being stepped on.
I don't recall if Shivering Timbers was there that summer or not. I think it might have been under construction at that time, but I do recall that a tree near the Wildcat had it's top tore completely off, It looked like someone had twisted it off, like you would break celery in half.
I was very glad that none of the other rides had any damage. The old midway seemed to have the worst damage. as that is were a good portion of the old trees were.
Sad, that even more trees were taking out by bulldozer by the jourdens, then the storm ever took out. The area were be-bop boulevard sits had lots of nice old trees. They bulldozed all of them to put in that ride. Did they ever consider building around them? Thank god Cedar Fair has been smart enough to plant trees, rather than take them out.
The park looks a lot better.
Timber-Rider said:
I'm curious about how many times each of you have been to Michigan's Adventure?
I have been to the park twice, which is 2 times too many.
SWOOSH -- MidwestInfoGuide.COM
"Look at us spinning out in the madness of a roller coaster" - Dave Matthews Band
Timber-Rider said:
Sad, that even more trees were taking out by bulldozer by the jourdens, then the storm ever took out. The area were be-bop boulevard sits had lots of nice old trees. They bulldozed all of them to put in that ride. Did they ever consider building around them?
Sadly, you are completely wrong. All of the trees in that area were destroyed by the wind. Please do some research before you post misinformation.
Also, I am very confused why you were in the park after the storm. Were you helping clean up the mess? *** Edited 7/7/2008 6:12:32 PM UTC by MIAdvFan***
Here is something for you...try not to sound like an asshole when you try to correct everyone. Its people like you that make this message board suck.
Maybe Timber-Rider was at the park after the storm because the park was open again. There is nothing in the post that suggests that Timber-Rider was in the park on the same day of the storm. Perhaps MIAdvFan you should learn how to read before you rip another persons post. *** Edited 7/9/2008 2:59:08 AM UTC by MotorCityCoasterFan***
Read the quote again. I was talking about the trees where be-bop boulevard is located. If you did your research, you would know that be-bop boulevard was not even in the park the year that the storms hit the park. It wasn't even finsihed until up to the point where Cedar Fair was considering purchasing the park. And took more than two years to build.
Also if you did your research, you would know that the parks orginal tilt-a-whirl and scrambler were once located where Be-bop boulevard sits. A good portion of the trees that were located between Zach's Zoomer and the Corkscrew were removed while the construction began on be-bop, and the entire area was surrounded by an ugly chain-link fence while the stupid car ride was being built. There was also an old pic-nic shelter back there that was bulldozed for the car ride, and the Grand Carousel was also relocted to make room for the new ride.
As for the storms. I was not there the day of the storms. But, I was there just two days later when they were still cutting up the downed trees and hauling them away with pick up trucks. Nothing but stumps as far as you could see. Mainly in the area where the parks current entrance is located.
The current entrance and the big Dipper coaster sit where the Mutley's putt putts, and the old bumper cars were located. That was the area that was hardest hit by the storms. The area where be-bop boulevard sits saw very little damage, except for one tree that fell on the old drummer boy ride. Which at that time, was located on a cement slab where the parks Spider ride used to stand. Today, the Coasters Cafe sits in that location.
Trust me, I know a lot about this park. And, have some old pictures that will show you what a horrid state the park was in before Cedar Fair. You would not recognise it. *** Edited 7/9/2008 3:40:32 AM UTC by Timber-Rider*** *** Edited 7/9/2008 3:44:38 AM UTC by Timber-Rider***
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