Maverick marketing: too apologetic?

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:47 PM
I also want to clarify that I'm referring to RCT2. I don't think any logic was used in RCT3 - at least no logic that *I* could decypher.

RCT is a pretty good learning tool/stepping stone into the coaster world. I certainly went from 'mildly interested' to 'enthusiast' courtesy of the original. I was obsessed with RCT2 for it's entire lifespan and it definitely served as a good tool for understanding blocking and generally getting a grip on 'correct' coaster operation. I merely tolerated RCT3...for a while. As far as I can tell it served no useful purpose as a learning or entertainment tool. I'm still annoyed and moreso amazed that they (Atari? Frontier?) could screw-up such a sure thing.

I take no sides in the 'inversions turn people away' thing. All I know is that on any given day at any given park the ridership seems to be equal for inverting and non-inverting coasters.

A more interesting trend to me is the way I've seen smaller rides scare people from bigger rides. For example a park like Dorney has Laser. We all know how sick those Schwarzkopf loops are. I've seen on many an occasion people use the logic that if a 'small' ride like Laser with two simple loops feels like that, then what must Talon with it's wilder inversions feels like. Or what Steel Force with drops twice as large must be like.

I think a fact that's lost on a certain segment of GP-types is that the oversized rides are also quite often overengineered to reduce the forces to levels that are quite often equal to or less than their smaller or older counterparts.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:00 PM
I've seen the related thing happen as well. At SFoT for instance, people will look at Titan and then say "No way" and then go and happily ride the boomerang, whereas at a park like Great Escape people will look at the boomerang and go "No way" and then go ride the Comet.

For whatever reason, people seem to fear the biggest coaster in the park (especially if it's the newest) more than the other coasters, regardless of how big the biggest actually is.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:11 PM
I guess I really didn't think about the apologetic thing too much, until I thought about the ACE president's interview. She says something to the effect of "Even though Maverick only has a 105ft. lift hill, enthusiasts love all coasters!" It is though she is saying "Well, ACE members expected you to build a 700ft. tall flying, dueling coaster, but we forgive you and will ride Maverick anyway."
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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:40 PM
"I think a fact that's lost on a certain segment of GP-types is that the oversized rides are also quite often overengineered to reduce the forces to levels that are quite often equal to or less than their smaller or older counterparts."

Yea, this could be true. If a ride "looks" more intimidating, then people might tend to shy away from it more.

A good example is SFGAdv. You have Medusa and BTR. Medusa looks more intimidating, since it's taller, longer, faster, and loopier :) But we know that BTR definitely packs a meaner punch.

Of course, the GP still like Batman. That thing seems to get a longer line than Medusa sometimes. Maybe those GP are hungry for Gs!

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:24 PM
Am I missing something here? In my experience MF and TTD have the longest lines in the park.
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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:11 PM
Raptor generates a pretty healthy line also but it moves quickly due to 3 train operation.
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Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:07 AM
Raptor you have to do later in the day. Millennium Force is under an hour most of the time. Dragster, well, you know how that goes.
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Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:10 AM
I second the effectiveness of the whole ipod thing. My family has been been on the fence about travelling to Sandusky from Tampa, and it was a more effective way to convince them than merely words or dragging them to a computer screen.

Also in my colleges classes, even in Tampa, the amount of people know who Cedar Point is incredible to me. The first thing they ask is about Dragster or Millie, but they all thought the new coaster looked awesome despite its lack of height. Everyone seemed to love the idea of a mid course launch as well.

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Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:23 PM
^ I hope more parks jump on the portable media bandwagon, as well. It doesn't cost much to create an iPod version of your animations, and then make it downloadable from your site.

Then, us coaster geeks can be like walking advertisements for the parks :)

Hey, come check out my latest iPod video--the new coaster/ride for (insert local/reginal park here)!

Yea, I'm a coaster geek, but isn't that why most of us are here, anyway? Oh, and iPods rock :)

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