Mantis-Stacking?

Friday, May 24, 2002 3:04 PM
I have a question about Mantis: Why are the dispatch time so long? I have noticed that at Cedar Point they keep reseting the seats, while at other parks, SFMM for example, if you are in a weird position when the seats lock your going to ride that way, is this the reason?

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Friday, May 24, 2002 4:40 PM

I can't blame SFMM for just dispatching if you're in a stupid position... dealing with people who won;t stand up on a STAND-UP coaster is aggravating at best, so I would just dispatch them... probably not the most orthodox method, but hey, it keeps the line moving.

I guess CP is anal about it, I dunno.

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Friday, May 24, 2002 4:49 PM

Mantis' capacity issues started with the addition of seatbelts to the ride. After the addition, there was constant stacking. Last year, they decided that since the trains always stacked, there was no advantage of running three trains and have run two ever since. You don't usually see them stack with two trains. I'll admit that I don't think I'd like to work a stand-up coaster because of the people who try to sit down or bounce on the seats. It's rare that all of them are "right" when they are first locked so usually several seats have to be released and rechecked. I don't know if I'd agree with dispatching seats that aren't in the correct position because even when the seats are in the right position, the ride can be very intense. I'd imagine things could be uncomfortable if the seat was too high or too low.

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Friday, May 24, 2002 4:51 PM

I know what you mean, but when you work at a stand up coaster and people sit down all the time, you eventuall take a "the hell with it" attitude and let the smart ones enjoy the ride.

You think people would get it, wouldn't you though?

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Friday, May 24, 2002 4:53 PM
MisterX, I completely agree. There are just some guests that are not good at critical thinking when it comes to figuring out how to seat yourself on a certain ride...
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Friday, May 24, 2002 5:01 PM
LOL... critical thinking... god forbid they have to figure out a seatbelt!
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Friday, May 24, 2002 6:16 PM
I saw, they switch those stand-up trains with floorless trains made just for that guage. It would probably make the ride more fun, especially if then they added on to it and tweaked the layout a bit. It would probably get the ride high ratings, or at least higher than they are now.
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Friday, May 24, 2002 6:29 PM
that would be cool if they switched em to floorless. personally, i wouldnt mind because many people complain about the very uncomfortable ride mantis gives due to the stand-up position.
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Friday, May 24, 2002 7:12 PM

Back in 2000 I worked on Mantis for Mellium Mania. The spieler would very clearly tell riders when the restraints would lock and we would STILL have some dumba$$ locked in the allmost sitting position. Then we would signal for whatever car to be released so we could try again.

I actually made up the rumor that Mantis was changeing into a floorless while working there. I said it would be named "Bride of Mantis" (lol). The name was a parody of SOBs name. I found it very amusing when people (mostly enthusiasts enjoying M. Mania) started to believe my nonsence. It was hilarious.

Just to clear things up, I don't normally make up silly rumors like that. I just thought it would be fun to see what people would believe.

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Friday, May 24, 2002 9:16 PM

This is a typical load/dispatch on Riddler's Revenge....

"....all seats will be locking on my count of 3...2...1... your seats are now locked."

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"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:56 AM
It's the same thing on Mantis. Unfortunately, some people just don't listen! ;)

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-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:30 AM

MisterX said:
LOL... critical thinking... god forbid they have to figure out a seatbelt!


The problem isn't figuring out the seatbelt, it's just not easy to reach and deal with. I can do it because I've been on the thing a hundred times, but for someone who goes once a year, it's not easy.

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:53 AM

Lewis said:
"I saw, they switch those stand-up trains with floorless trains made just for that guage. It would probably make the ride more fun, especially if then they added on to it and tweaked the layout a bit. It would probably get the ride high ratings, or at least higher than they are now."
That would not work B&M desigened the coaster for stand up trains not a floorless. If they did do it B&M would have to totally chance the coater so they might as well built a new floorless.
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Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:15 PM
No no Jeff... I meant something much easier... a "normal" seatbelt on a sit-down coaster. God forbid another type like a stand up or inverted one.
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Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:30 AM
Personally, I like Mantis as a stand-up. If Mantis was floorless, it wouldn't be nearly as intense. And that drop seems vertical standing.

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Saturday, June 1, 2002 5:47 PM
Let me tell you all something: Floorless coasters are nothing compared to Stand-Ups...Floorless are just a basic sit-down coaster with no floor, Stand-Ups, however, offer a completely different ride experience.
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Saturday, June 1, 2002 9:46 PM
They were stacking with 2 trains the other day...unacceptable!

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Saturday, June 1, 2002 9:56 PM

Yeah. I was at CP over the summer and all three days the 2 trains were stacking. It was so freaking annoying. The seat belt isn't that hard to figure out! The biggest problem is that even though the line looks short it will take you forever. Why do they need seat belts anyways? Many B&Ms dont have seatbelts.

PS- Matis would suck as a floorless. A floorless needs to be built more intense to achive the rid the designers are looking for and Mantis would suck.

*** This post was edited by CoasterCrazyOne on 6/2/2002. ***

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Sunday, June 2, 2002 11:44 AM

Tyler 7692 said:
Let me tell you all something: Floorless coasters are nothing compared to Stand-Ups...Floorless are just a basic sit-down coaster with no floor, Stand-Ups, however, offer a completely different ride experience.


Thanks for the info tyler; But I'm sure most of us know this already. :-)

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Monday, June 3, 2002 2:04 PM
Nice discussion on GTTP about this. I don't see stacking as that big of a deal (with 3 trains that is). If they're stacking with 2, then that is pus!

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