Looking for WHIP information.

Monday, February 18, 2002 9:06 AM
I need some technical information on the whip ride. Particulary the diameter of the bull wheels at either end (that drag the chain or cable around), the length and width of the center platform (for a 12 car model especially), and the length and width of the total ride.

Also, does anybody know of any overhead photographs and/or "straight on" pictures (anything other than the usual 'wedge' shot you so often see)?
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Monday, February 18, 2002 12:43 PM
Excuse my incompetance, but the WHIP is the ride they have (had?) at Coney Island, is it not?
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Monday, February 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Yes, its a ride that you site in a lil' car and go around and when you reach the end it "whips" you to the oppisite direction.

Millrace why do you want to know? Are you going to make one? out of curiosity or do you just want to know?

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Monday, February 18, 2002 12:55 PM
I think this is the ride you are talking about, it is called the Whip and this is the one at Lakeside Amusement Park, but I'm not sure if this photo will help.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/coaster/lake.html

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Monday, February 18, 2002 1:20 PM
Yep, that'd be the Whip.
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Monday, February 18, 2002 2:20 PM
MikeMir87: Yes, I am going to make one. I have an interest in the old rides that you just don't see too often. I've got several rides finished already. This weekend, I finished up my replica of a Traver Circle Swing (with the rocket ship cars - who made those?).

Of course the only catch is that you'll have to about a 1/2" tall to ride any of them :)

I was fortunate in having several photos of a circle swing that allowed me to make an educated guess about the dimensions (I also heard a ballpark figure for the size from somebody) but I have yet to find a suitable whip photo and it's been a little while since I've seen one in person.

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Monday, February 18, 2002 2:35 PM
I am set to do one in N scale too, so any Whip info you get would be helpful! Can we see pics of your Rocketships? Sounds amazing. Is your park going to have a banjo player? :)
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Monday, February 18, 2002 2:55 PM
Millrace, I have a copy of the 1921-22 W.F. Mangels Co. Whip catalog. Here's the specs that are in it.

12 Complete cars,upholstred,decorated and painted. Each car has waterproof cover.

12 friction Wheel,mounted on Ball Bearings.

12 Brackets,complete with all bars,springs and connections.

2 Steel wheels,16 ft. in dia. made in six sections eac, one wheel has crucible steel rack attached.

2 Steel wheel center,one of which with adjustable base.

1 Steel cable,with twenty four steel attachments attached and five joint clips.

44 Steel plates,cut drilled and countersunk,approximate weight 7,400 lbs.

2 Angle Iron Cable guides.

1 Drive,consisting of steel frame,shaft,jounal boxes,steel pinion,36" friction clutch pulley and lever, all mounted in one unit.

1 setof blue prints, showing construction of wood work and installation of mechanical parts.

   The standard size  stationary Whip platform measures 44 X 84 feet.

I hope this will be of some help to you.

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Monday, February 18, 2002 5:24 PM
That is a great help, thanks Dutchman!

Arrow Guy: I'm a bit computer challenged but I'll see if I can sneak a digital camera from work sometime and email you some pics. I really like the swing ride, it looks really impressive but was actually quite easy to build (thanks to the miracle of gap-filling CA and accelerant). I also lied, I'm not quite done with it - still have some work to do on carving the rocketships. I'm shaping them out of a dowel and then gluing aluminum foil over it for the "stainless steel" look.

Oh, yes, there will be a banjo player ;) I have a little gazebo and I'm planning a whole bluegrass band to play in it complete with a hidden speaker blasting Foggy Mountain Breakdown!
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*** This post was edited by millrace on 2/19/2002. ***

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Monday, February 18, 2002 6:04 PM
A Mangels' Whip, A Traver Circle Swing, a gazebo...how do I shrink myself to get into millrace's cool park?  And isn't music from a (presumably) full-sized banjo gonna be too loud?  The good news is that I'm sure admission for my 1/2" self would have to be pretty...small!
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Monday, February 18, 2002 8:25 PM
The first rockets on the circle swings was originally built in house by Euclid Beach Park. They replaced the airplanes which were on the circle swings (which originally replaced the gondola's). Since then other parks also added rockets to their circle swings, but I don't know who made them.

They had a rocket on display at the Crawford Museum in Cleveland. Surprising to me it had wooden seating and a wooden frame with what was almost like a thick aluminum foil making up the outside. It did not look in to good of shape, the wood was rotting and there was lots of people who carved their names into the wood.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2002 5:12 AM
The Rocket replacements for the Traver Circle Swings were built by R.E. Chambers. He was a former Traver employee who took over the plant after Traver folded.
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Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:30 PM
Thanks Dutchman! Can't wait to see it Millrace. Yup, CA works miracles! The foil is a good idea.....how did you get it around the noses without it bubbling?
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Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:24 PM
you need to visit camden park in huntington, wv.  they have the whip ride in operation there.  a great old classic!
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Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:50 AM
"how did you get it around the noses without it bubbling?"

Magic :)
I used three seperate pieces of foil for the rockets. I started by sticking a small piece on the very tip of the nose and smoothed it over the best I could. It isn't perfect but close enough. the tail is more or less a cone shape so I just formed the foil into a cone and slipped it on. I wrapped the 3rd piece of foil around the cyclindrical main body - it covered the ends of the nose and tail. I used a sharp knife to trip the foil around the seat cutouts. I'm just glad I only need three rockets!

I hope the whip cars will be easier to form. I'll have to make 12 of those.

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