Posted Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:59 AM | Contributed by Jeff
Controversial new ride at Alton Towers would have a "significant" impact on a key conservation area at the popular tourist attraction, it was claimed. The plans for a wooden rollercoaster at the theme park have been labelled as "totally inappropriate" by Staffordshire Moorlands District Council officer Steve Massey. Theme park bosses plan to cut back about 200 trees from the site to make way for the multi-million pound rollercoaster. Alton Towers claim that of the 146 trees which would need to be removed, 130 are classed as self-seeded immature, diseased or dangerous.
Read more from The Staffordshire Register.
Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:29 AM
So is it "about 200 trees" or is it "146 trees" that need to be removed? That's quite a large discrepancy...
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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:45 AM
Can you imagine how happy
some of the nature people over this side of the pond, or even those who complain about a lack of trees at a park would be if the next new ride at a major park only took out 150-200 trees? I swear, people will complain about anything as long as it makes them look important ...
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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:16 AM
I can understand that the position of the ride may or may not be appropriate but they seem unjust. Over here in the US it all about height and parks are basically unwilling to do what Alton Tower has done. I can't ever see parks like Dorney or SFWoA ever spending the money to build a 180-foot drop that is 115 feet underground. Alton Tower understands the situation they are in and are willing to done what to apply too the local restraints. But the locals basically seem like change is a bad thing and therefore will vote no too everything and anything. They don't commend the park for spend millions of dollars just to allow theirs life’s to go on undisrupted. What bugs me it seems like they are even unwilling to make suggestions for what the park can do FOR them, so the park can add new attractions.
Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:44 AM
Alton towers is in a rather unique position with the entire park being more or less a historical site for reasons other than its being an amusement park.
It seems like almost every park has at least one neighbor who is opposed to everything that it plans to do. It's worth pointing out that the run of a coaster has relatively little impact on the environment if done correctly. Animals seem to pass under them almost as if they just weren't there. Coasters seem to have far less impact than a roadway. They may have somewhat greater impact on birds. ;) Every time I go to Holiday World, I see deer grazing under the coasters.
Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:34 AM
the main problem it seams is that the valley which they are wanting to build the coaster in is pretty much the sanctuary of the park, those who have been should realise that this is pretty much the only area of the park which doesn't have any rides in it, the wooden coaster will drop into the old untouched gardens (with it's endless paths), and will disrupt the view from further up the valley near the swan ride.
I'm still hoping for this ride to be built. Anyone know whether any of the old sites which turned into coasters where grade 1 conservation areas? i'm pretty sure air wasn't...
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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:12 PM
I know this is wrong to say, but all I can think is "tree-huggers" after reading that article. Oh boy, now I did it. ;)
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Tuesday, April 22, 2003 7:13 PM
*Hugs a tree*
Don't cut any of my freinds down. You evil evil people.
Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:45 PM
I can just see that guy on PBS, "and I'll paint another happy little tree next to this other tree, because everyone needs a friend." ;)
Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:58 PM
I'm curious to see any pictures of the area in question. I've seen the plans, I've heard the descriptions, but I'm eager to see any photos of the area before I can make an honest opinion.
One thing I've noticed is the media are giving a very one-sided perspective (not that this is somehow extraordinary). Local residents read the paper, hear the distorted truth, and immediately oppose the ride.
I'm not going to say that Alton Towers has had the same impact that a park like Walt Disney World etc. has had on Orlando, but surely Mr Blogg's bakery has had substantial benefit from the tourism that passes through town. I'm sure there is more accomodation as a result. Long story short, the local economy I'm sure would be very grateful, certainly more grateful that they're currently acting.
Still, I'd be eager to see any photos, if you know of any, I'd be really grateful (I found this in a Google search for "Churnet Valley", any UKers know of this is roughly what we're talking about?).
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Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:00 AM
thats pretty much the valley on the right picture, although i think the ride will be placed further down the valley, where it's not gardens, but old ancient woodland
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Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:22 PM
Can people please sign this petition? The Alton locals have sent 120 letters opposing this new ride, we need to beat that number and you would help as lots by signing this petiton. And mention that you are American as this shows that many tourists will visit the area if this new ride is built. Many thanks.
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