Line Jumpers

Friday, September 7, 2001 7:28 PM
Who thinks there homeparks have the worst line jumping problems?  My home park SFGAm is okay with line jumping, Some rides like Iron Wolf are great when others like Batman people just skip.  When I was at SFMM this summer I noticed there line jumping situation is really bad.  I was with my family and I wanted to go on RR so I went by myself and probably 20 people skipped me....it was unbelieveable.  We also went to Knott's Berry Farm and someone tried skipping in front of me on Ghostrider and a guard cought them and kicked them out of the line (IT seems like Cedar Fair really controls line jumping well.)  Anyone else have any storys or ideas which parks have the worst line jumpers or best enforced rules?
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Friday, September 7, 2001 7:34 PM
One of my favorite line jumping stories is this:

I was at work one day, talking to the hottie that was controlling the Exterminator line outside of the tunnel at Kennywood.  The line was about 45 min. outside, and 20 more min. inside.  We saw these 3 kids cut right in front of these other people in the line.  I asked her, "aren't you gonna say anything to them?"  She said, "no, not now... I'll wait 1/2 hour until they get to the front of the line then tell them to get out."

How devious she was!  I love it!

(So if you see ride ops "ignoring" line jumpers, they may have a trick up their sleeve.)

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Friday, September 7, 2001 7:36 PM
I have the best idea. Make a scene! I myself am sick of line jumpers. Last time at SFGAm, in line for RB there were 10 people who skippedd in front of me. The last 2 were these 2 ladies, who slipped behind me after I decided to not let anyone through. Unfortunatly, because they were in front of me, when I started telling them to goto the END of the line, they ran ahead. I did get a few words to them, which did attract some attention, but obviously not enough. Super-Mom and Aunt had to get back up to thier children!

I don't see whats hard about waiting either from the end of the line, and meeting your group at the ride's exit's path end (not the exit of the station, I hate those people who crowd there and block the way.) Another thing would be to skip the ride, and wait for them at the end of the exit instead. Super-Mom's kids were 12-16, so I think they were old enough to ride by themselves. Some people... I can't belive they have the nerve...

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Friday, September 7, 2001 8:10 PM
At SFDL I've only had one experience with line jumpers, I was walking that extremely long pathway to get to Viper's entrance, and I stopped to take a picture right under the first loop. I continued walking when I saw that people were getting close to me, and this little girl and her brother just cut right in front of me. I was gonna say something to them, but they started running at full speed to get to the station. That bothers me so much, it was a walk on, they would barely have to wait a couple minutes if they had stayed behind me.
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Friday, September 7, 2001 8:44 PM
At Cedar Point, we have it, yes, but I only really notice it on one main ride, WildCat. Since the queue is right on the midway, it is very easy to.

There was one time I got in line as they closed the line for the Laser Show. I got to the part next to where you load, but on the midway still. There was this family who was at the turnstyles. Their younger daughter was standing on the midway wanting to ride. Now, I'm thinking, naw she's not going to do it their too far up. I turn the other wayfor a minute and then I turn around. I look to my right and she had walked past me up the ramp telling people, "excuse me!" I was going to say something but, they were too far up. Anyway there are times where we get people for line jumping or standing on the rails, and the'll say,"Are you paid to be a prick?" So I didn't bother. I do know the crew and knew the person at controls. By the time I was able to say something they were already off the ride. She must have cut 15-20 minutes of waiting.

I'm tired of all of this. But, I can't find a way to stop it!

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Friday, September 7, 2001 9:44 PM
Line Jumpers, Ihate'em i hate 'em , i hate 'em, i hate 'em i hate them!!!!!!!!!! They should be banned from parks for years!  Parks like disneyland and KBF have policys on line jumpers, but they just come back the next day, so it doesnt really stop  the jumpers

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Friday, September 7, 2001 10:03 PM
Yeah, if you notice on the Cedar Point policy, it says you will be asked to leave the park. But, I have never seen that happen!

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Friday, September 7, 2001 10:14 PM
I think parks should tag the ears of line jumpers like you would tag the ear of a bear!!!! That way when they come to your park to get all mean and nasty to other peeps to cut in line just toss them on their butts all the way outta the park!!!!
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Friday, September 7, 2001 10:14 PM
I think parks should tag the ears of line jumpers like you would tag the ear of a bear!!!! That way when they come to your park to get all mean and nasty to other peeps to cut in line just toss them on their butts all the way outta the park!!!!
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Saturday, September 8, 2001 10:20 AM
Doesn't CP security escort the line jumpers out of the park? Are there some parks that do?
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Saturday, September 8, 2001 3:07 PM

VertiGo535 said:
Yeah, if you notice on the Cedar Point policy, it says you will be asked to leave the park.

I think most parks claim that to be their policy on line jumping, yet I have never seen it happen.  And when you think about it, it makes sense... why kick people out of the park when you can keep them inside and hope they spend more money?  Chances are, when people are caught line jumping and are sent to the end of the line, they won't attempt it again, at least on that ride on that day.  That's really all that can be hoped for, its not like kicking them out of the park is going to teach them a lesson that will last forever!
During my various park trips this year, I have not really seen line jumping to be a huge problem.  I visited Dorney on 3 separate Saturdays, and there was no jumping going on except for one Saturday, and a security guard made sure to catch everyone who was guilty of it.  Two trips to SFGadv, and I hardly saw any, which surprised me because of the size of the park and the huge crowds it gets.  But it does get to me when it does happen...

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Saturday, September 8, 2001 4:07 PM

coasterdude39 said:
I think parks should tag the ears of line jumpers like you would tag the ear of a bear!!!! 

That's pretty funny!  Or make them wear a bright orange suit around the park that says "LINE JUMPER."
For the first time ever I saw someone get in trouble at PKI on the Saturday before Labor Day.  If you count "trouble" as the guy going and getting them - I've never seen anybody get thrown out of anywhere for it.
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Saturday, September 8, 2001 8:54 PM
Which park is the worst? Out of the 30 park visits I've had this year, SFGAm was the worst, Raging Bull specificly. SFNE's Superman had the most "attempts", but the day I was there, security was busting them left and right. It was wonderful watching them escorted out of the line amid the cheers of the honest people.
The other one I have had trouble with is Millennium Force. I watched a group of three kids grow to twelve, one by one over the coarse of about 30 minutes. I chewed them out every time, but they kept coming. The problem was, I couldn't find anybody to "turn them in" to. No security in sight. I've seen similer instances like this three or four times in my 7 visits to CP over the last two years. 
My personal favorite was at Dorney, waiting for Steel Force. These two forty-something year old women come barrelling through the line; "Excuse me! Excuse me!" they're saying.  When they get to me and my wife, I block the line. She looks up at me ,"Excuse me!" . My wife jumps in with "Where are you going?".  "Our kids are up there" she says. I explained "Your kids can step aside and wait for you. You're line jumping - read the signs all around the park". She looks at me and says "but my kids are up there!". At this point I turned to my wife in disgust, and they cruise right past us! Of course, my wife unloaded on them at that point.  They just kept going.
As we got close to the station, I saw them boarding the train with their kids - in their late teens - and I pointed them out to the operator at the entrance to the station and explained what happened. What's he come back with? "Oh". That's it . He did nothing. I should have went to management, but it was tword the end of the day, and I wanted a few more rides.  
I say this: bust them whenever you can! If you can't turn them in, chew them out. They're taking your ride time from you. It is, in fact, stealing! You have every right to let them know it. (Unless it's some huge biker guy that might smash your head. Then, turn him in, but be sure he doesn't know who you are!)  
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Saturday, September 8, 2001 9:04 PM
Chaindog, I have to agree with you - I think the MOST common form of line-jumping is to send a party member or two into the line and let the rest of the party "catch up".  That way they can split up their own party AND get everyone "in line".  And the best part (for them at least) is that all their wait times are minimized - it's like having an all-day fastpass!
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Saturday, September 8, 2001 9:24 PM
I agree immensly with everyone. I despise line jumpers! A quick story:

One fine day at my local amusement park, I was happily waiting in line for the good ol' Boomerang. I was in the somewhat middle of the line with my 2 other buds. Then a huge group of pre-teens comes up behind us (there was like 7 of them) boys and girls. Then they started just saying the typical, "Excuse me" deal and began progressing toward the front. Now the line was like 15 minutes, and the ride isn't even that great, but still, I will not let a jumper pass me. So as they come up behind us (we have our backs facing them)they start trying to push through us. I say to the 1st one,

-"Hey, what are you doing?"
"My friend is up ahead."
-"So why are you passing me?"
"So I can get to him, he's holding my spot."
-"Well sorry bud, but you ain't going any further."
"What? Let me through!!"
(Begin pushing)

That's when it got personal...
This smuck actually thinks he could have overpowered me and my friends, so all we did is give them the old "pass-block". He started cussing us out and stuff, which caught the attention of a patrolling security guard.

Long story, short - They didn't get a ride.

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Sunday, September 9, 2001 1:09 AM
Ahh...my favorite so far was probably DCA on the Grizzly River Run. Me and my cousin were about 5 minutes away from the station when i notice three little 10 year olds walking through the line holding a piece of paper. Once they got to us (since we're as big as football players) we blocked them. They start tapping me and show me this piece of paper that read Permit to pass through lines. When they acted as though this had any hold on me i just started to laugh. This is probably the most stupid thing i have ever seen.
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Sunday, September 9, 2001 4:32 PM
Yeah, It seems like everyone has got their stories...IF SFGAm did ONE thing for the 2002-2003 season...Besides maybe opening Deja Vu, they should really control the line jumpers.
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Sunday, September 9, 2001 6:42 PM
LOL "permit to pass through line" that is hysterical. I would have taken it and make it into an airplane and thrown it away!
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Sunday, September 9, 2001 6:58 PM
What's the difference between paying to skip line (aka fast lane). I serioulsy dont see a difference so I dont yell at people who dont pay to budge. Their just a lil smarter then the rest if they can get away with it.
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Monday, September 10, 2001 10:10 AM
I guess the only difference is FastPass lets you skip (the park doesn't have a problem with it) BUT your paying them money to do it.  Where as line jumping the parks say they enforce but yet it seems like sometimes they don't.
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