Last Call for Joker's Jinx for season

Friday, October 3, 2003 7:37 PM
According to my supervisor, today-Saturday, will be the last day of operation of Joker's Jinx, because of the usual fall noise problem (even though the leaves haven't fallen off the trees yet). I found it interesting that they were still running Blizzard River last night, considering how cold it was. The pipe that has streams of water coming out of it was turned off however, so there was a one-in-six chance that you would get wet in the upper half.
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Friday, October 3, 2003 11:31 PM
What fall noise problem?
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Saturday, October 4, 2003 2:43 AM
Because a residential neighborhood sits behind SFA Joker's Jinx closes in early October because the trees help buffer the noise from the neighborhood behind them. Without the leaves on the trees the noise from Jokers Jinx apparently puts the park over the legal decibel limit for the park.
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Saturday, October 4, 2003 3:37 AM
It's a good thing I'll be at SFA today. I love Flight Of Fear...wait a minute....oops, I mean Jokers Jinx. Also since this is my first trip back to Six Flags since Cedar Point, I wonder if Superman will have the same impact on me since I've been on the Force and Dragster. Wait a minute, I'm off topic.....I mean uh.....(runs away)
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Saturday, October 4, 2003 7:08 AM
um ok

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Saturday, October 4, 2003 7:53 AM
Dang I'll end up missing it :( my trip was cancelled today on account of the wet weather this morning so we'll be going tomorrow instead,I also read that S:ROS was down yesterday as well,I hope they get it runing by tomorrow though.

I-Fan do you know if the go-karts will be running during frightfest? I've still got a buy one get one free coupon that I really want to use before the end of the season.

As for JJ I really think they should just enclose the ride ala FOF & just give it a funhouse theme,that would cut down trmendously on the noise level & make the ride more interesting,but of course given PG county's strict fire code regulations enclosing the ride might not be a cost effective option for the park at this point in time.

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Saturday, October 4, 2003 2:50 PM
Why batwing fan, that is good idea, by golly! It would make a better ride out of JJ, take care of the noise problem, and give SFA the opportunity to actually *theme*.

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Saturday, October 4, 2003 7:33 PM
Enclosing JJ would add only 4 weekends per year to its operation. It would dramaticly increase operating costs since the building would have to be air conditioned through the bulk of the season. It would also of course eat up a lot of capital. For those costs the park could probably put in several flats, a small to medium size coaster, or a good bit of the new water park that they want. I doubt that we will ever see it enclosed.
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Saturday, October 4, 2003 7:42 PM
Superman did run on Friday, but not for long unfortunately. It was the first day it was run in the cold, and I think that's what was causing the problems. When it was tested unloaded, it was crawling over the last few bunny hops. It did run all day today though. Joker's Jinx did have its last day, and because I've been operating Krypton Comet (Chaos) as of late, I can't say I'm too upset about it, considering that the ride is right behind me. BFSFA, I can't answer your question about the go-karts since I'm no longer over in that area.

You missed one extremely crowded day. Between the Boy Scouts who were camping overnight, a re-scheduled buy-out that was cancelled because of Isabel, the Naval Academy, and all the GP, we were swamped. When Pirate's Flight has a line, you know it's crowded. My ride was swamped most of the day.

Lastly, I too have thought about enclosing, or semi-enclosing Joker's Jinx, but I think we should be happy that we got the retrofitted trains last year, which had to have cost a fortune. It's just a shame that the park has neighbors:(
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Sunday, October 5, 2003 8:19 AM
Yeah but! S:ROS has been having that issue with it crawling back into the station since August. It ran last year when in November when the temps barely reached the mid 50's. It wasn't that much cooler the other night.
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Sunday, October 5, 2003 9:53 AM
Yeah, yesterday was a pretty weird day. Lot's of people. I would also like to add that yesterday was the first time I went to any major park all alone. But screw it, this is probably the only weekend I'll have off the whole month, I wasn't about to miss Fright Fest. Or more importantly..Goldie aka Jennifer at Terror In Tombtown. (Drools) Opps, well I...as far as Jokers Jinx goes, I say leave it outdoors. Just down the road you got the same ride enclosed at PKD. What I like about the Joker is how it is outdoors. Leave it as it is.
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Monday, October 6, 2003 6:04 AM
SROS certainly wasn't crawling into the station during Pitch Black ERT. Can't say about other times.

A note: I believe that the park's noise restriction is 52 dB at the property line. This is really quite low. I doubt that most other parks with neighbors have a noise restriction this low.

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Monday, October 6, 2003 6:42 AM
52 dB? That's pathetic. Most roads make more noise than that. But, if the park ever said 'screw this we're outta here' and moved elsewhere (unlikely, but still ...) the entire town would probably be screaming and whining for it to stay for the jobs ... nimby nimby nimby ...

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Monday, October 6, 2003 7:13 AM
I doubt the residents of the neighborhoods around the park would be screaming for the park to stay. I'm sure the park leaving would cause alot of heartburn amongst county councial members. With a amusement tax of 10% on each ticket, that would be a loss of $3.50 per full price paying adult and $6.00 per season pass, not to mention the lost tax revenue on concession/games sales and tourism dollars leaving, toss in the visibility the park brings to a county that is just dieing for upscale retail. The neighborhoods around the park have accepted the fact the SFA is there to stay and I've heard rumours of them getting the height limit and the db level raised but so far nothing has come of those rumours yet. Only time will tell.
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Monday, October 6, 2003 8:26 AM
I was there yesterday (10/5) & JJ of course was closed for the season :( but the go-karts were up & running :) ,the park was pretty much dead so walk ons & in some cases re-rides without getting off were the order of the day.

S:ROS was running all day yesterday(albiet single train operation) but it's better than not having the ride running at all,also PBR & SWF were fully operational as well.

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Monday, October 6, 2003 8:55 AM
I took my final ride on JJ over a month ago. It'll be there next year.

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Monday, October 6, 2003 12:14 PM
Of course it will,who said anything about the ride going anywhere?

I still say they should enclose it,or maybe change the wheels to make it less noisy.I've noticed that it's gotten louder ever since the new trains were added in 02 because it wasn't that loud in 01.

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Monday, October 6, 2003 12:28 PM
No one said anything about it going anywhere--I'm merely implying that it's not a big deal that the ride is closed.

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Monday, October 6, 2003 1:08 PM
Just a note: That dB limit isn't just for Six Flags. It is common in the suburban Maryland counties. And then we spend tens of millions putting up sound barriers for people who were dumb enough to buy houses with an expressway in their back yard.
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Monday, October 6, 2003 2:16 PM
Ya, seems the county would be better off if they didn't put so many restrictions on the park. I'm guessing that Six Flags America is either the greatest or at least one of the greatest single sources of revenue for the county you'de think that the county would be doing everything in its power to get people to go to the park. Instead, they limit how high the park can build, they limit how loud the park can be, and they even limit the hours the park can be open (that's why SFA is never open till 11pm or midnight for Fright Fest like many other Six Flags parks are). I mean, if the county would help fund the park to build the metro line to the park, run a buss from the directly between the new Largo Town Center Metro stop and the park, or at least help to build a sound barrier around the park I think both the county and the park could prosper!
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