As far as "competing" with DelGrossos is concerned, I would rather see the parks compliment each other. DG has that crazy mouse with a steel looping coaster on the way. Lakemont has those wooden coasters including the unique Leap the Dips. The two parks together could draw more visitors to the area from Pittsburgh and central PA. Add the Horseshoe Curve, the Railroad museum, the Altoona Curve baseball team and the mountain scenery and there is a good bit to do here.
The car show does sound cool (yeah, I still use the term also - probably showing our ages). We probably won't make it to Lakemont until 8/25.
Agent Johnson said:
Lets just throw this out there....if Lakemont were to get something a little bit larger than a Mouse, would any of you come to ride it?
I know I would. That goes without saying.
It's a wonderful coaster and piece of history I was honored to ride, and makes Lakemont worth the trip no matter what else is there. It was also my first Toboggan. That thing is CRAZY!
Swell! Lets sit and chat a second. (Heh heh).
Sadly, as the Conneaut situation comes to what seems to be almost uncurable now, (see the last few entries of the Conneaut thread), well, being in the business, I'm sure you're more than well aware...
Anyhoo.. ( *coughs) .. as sad as this is for we park enthusiasts to see, seems some flat rides... although I don't know which ones.. are going to be offered for sale.
Among the goodies I know they have are an absoultely AWSOME Roll O Plane (which performed all of its intended functions, unlike many who don't offer the lifting part of the ride), the great Tumble Bug, and the Flying Scooters, and Paratrooper. Some great additions to plug into some of those empty spots at a fraction of the cost of buying new or building major stuff.... AND a great way to make a "retro" area to compliment the Leap the Dips.... reopen a couple of those game booths down there (or turn one or two into retail spot) with some nice heavy 50s style neon!
(This ex-West View Park addict has a lump in his throat and a tear in his eye now)
I'll leave your office now, with that grin you presumably are wearing after hearing this marvy idea. :) ( Gee Whillikers, Mr Kumpf, you look swell today! Been working out? ) Gotta run to Mrs Cleaver's for some cookies.
And a suggestion that I happen to like. If Conneaut Lake is going to remain closed and eventually auctioned piece-by-piece, it might make sense for a small park like Lakemont to "pick the bones" so they can add rides at a very reasonable cost. As rides like Knoebels Looper have proven, old rides sometimes make great additions to parks.
"Ward, don't you think you're being a little too hard on the Beaver?!?"
Chooch, maybe you and June could have had a nice little chat in Jive. :)
Obviously Chooch's post was written in a humorous vein...
Wrong. Gonch is never funny.
But, as history dictates, Lakemont has attracted the attention of other operators, and CLP is under the watch by others.
However, the only true traditional park operators are the ones that are operated by individuals who care, know their regional market, and well, that explains why so many acquisitions have failed, and the most successfull parks are the 'independents'. Kennywood, Knoebels, Dollywood, Opryland, HersheyPark, Moreys Piers, Silver Dollar City, Lagoon Park, or Holiday World.
Only a handfull of signature attractions, a good marketing gimmick, 3-5 steady years of solid group bookings, a few custom rides, and the next Lakemont, Conneaut Lake, Lakeside, Camden Park, or Joyland becomes the next Knoebels or Kennywood. Imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery an owner once told me, and don't for even one moment think these independent park owners don't talk frequently or share business plans.
Look at that list: No leaning on B&M's for the flagship ride. No reliance on million dollar Huss rides for capacity. No overbuilt hypers, or unmaintained dark rides. Plenty of kiddie and family rides, nearby hotels and camping, massive group picnic areas, and on and on.
Read this post 20 years from now. That list won't change. *** Edited 7/19/2007 5:27:50 AM UTC by Agent Johnson***
HP used to be a small traditional park. Now it's a close to being a megapark but still independent. They just weren't able to make a go of LC but Kennywood stepped in and turned the Connecticut park around.
Meanwhile a little kids park in Indiana transformed itself into a must visit park for those who love wooden coasters.
There is also the story of that small out of the way park in north central PA shrugs off a big flood in the late 1960s and grows immensely in the years that follow with the help of a darkride and two wooden coasters.
Also there is the revival of BB in Kentucky (which was helped to some extent by the demise of Opryland). Lagoon in Utah grows into a KW sized park. IB adds signature rides that make it a bigger draw while other similar parks disappear or struggle.
Let's preserve our smaller parks. Hopefully more of them can thrive again including Conneaut, Joyland, and the new Bells.
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