Sounds like a Huss Topspin to me.
Sure, Cliffhanger sounds great, but I've heard that one of it's features is holding riders face first into a wall of water. I for one, find that concept extremely unpleasant. I could handle a quick twist or flip through a waterfall, but not being drenched by an inescapable wall of water. If Lagoon incorporates this feature into it's new Cliffhanger, I may refrain from riding untill the colder season.
I think that the ops can either make you go through the water quickly, or they can hold you in it for some time. I think you probably just shouldn't make them mad and you'll be ok.
Anyway, Does anybody know if it will really only have 20 seats? I think the one at PCW has 40. If there are only 20, there are going to be some very long lines.
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As far as I know, Mondial only manufactures them in 40 seat models. Lagoon's will be a 40-seat model. There are two rows of 20, the reporter was mistaken, and there will be 10 custom seats that have inserts in them for smaller guests. The inserts will be the same as those on the 2 inside seats on Samurai. In our Rides Division Newsletter, it states what I have just said. 20 seats, two rows, and 10 of those 40 seats will have inserts so the ride may accommodate smaller riders.
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I do like water rides, but I feel Lagoon actually needs more themeing and more roller coasters...basically Lagoon sucks the big one! Unless they can update it with a Disney flair, the park will only get crappier.
They can try the new ride every year thing, but they need to update, modify or make better all there other peices of crap.
Just my 2 cents~
so you want my 2 cents on lagoon
well here it is this park sucks very bad it is too old and the rides are very crappy im suprised that they havent crashed, but i have heard that people have been killed at this park and one guy had a heart attack this place sucks i advise you not to go and by the way this site sucks for making a password for me.
Lagoon is the only crap hole we can call an amusement park (to me a 50 cent carnavil)! I agree with Primoshock on everything, but I do like this site...gives places like me and him to rant :)
Primoshock, please get your facts right b4 u open ur mouth. Lagoon has one of the best safety records in the industry. Disney, How many ppl have died at DL recently? I am proud to work for Lagoon, and I know many rides need paint, but they are taken very well care of. As for being a "Crap Hole", It may be a "Hell Hole", but no Crap Hole. Have either of you ever been to Lagoon?
My Five (5) cents
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Yes I have been there, going Thursday to tell you the truth (9th Grade Lagoon Day)! I was trying to say the rides at Lagoon are Crap, but take a look at it, when you walk in you are bombarded with food, people in your face trying to get you to play there game for $2.00! I should be able to walk in to an amusement park and "escape" from reality.
Now I won;t lie, your new rides are great, good landscaping, some theme to them (Samuri, Rocket, Rattlesnake), and a "thrill" to them.
Truly if Lagoon took the time and refurbished a section of the park a year, it would be wonderful! I hate getting lost around Lagoon a Beach, and Pioneer Village is confusing to the whole layout of the park (is that red house really haunted or is that a story).
Lets take the Log Ride for example. I sit in line for 2 hours for a 30 second ride that really honestly sucks. Not to be rude, but all you do is float around go down a hill. Okay so Lagoon is not Disneyland, but can't you throw a cave in there that you go through, or take out the whale from Draculas castle and you go through that!
Even the Rocket, I HATE the q-line, it's hot and I want to be shot in the air. Why doesn;t Lagoon budget $1000 and put the q-line in an inclosure? Give everything a theme like the enclousure (provided windows) is Super Hero Training School. Inside you watch a video or two of Rocket man going through Training school . . . and the Final Test for All Super Heros is well the Rocket!\
Well enough from me, sorry to piss you off RidgeStone, it's just that Utah deserves a REAL park without Carnival Rides in it :)
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Shoot, the first line is suppose to say:
"I was trying to say the rides at Lagoon are not Crap"
Sorry to any of you offended!
I'm going to Lagoon this Friday, but I don't know if Cliffhanger is going to be on my list to ride. I've heard it's pretty gut-wrenching, and I'll have to see it in action before I strap myself in.
Also, I've seen pictures of Cliffhanger and I think the color scheme is HIDEOUS! That putrid green and bright red don't mix very well in my opinion. It might be one of the best rides at Lagoon, but it might also be one of the ugliest.
Cliffhanger is not that gut wrenching.If you,ve rode Samaurai you'll live through a ride on Cliffhanger.If you're not going to ride it,it's always funny to watch people scream as the water aproaches them,and they get drenched.
The color scheme is well....different I'll say that.I don't know why,but when I saw those colors the first thing that popped into my head was a christmas tree.
I've ridden Samurai and I didn't get sick one bit. It's definitely not as nauseating as it looks. Maybe Cliffhanger will be the same way.
Anyway, you've ridden it, so maybe you could answer a few questions. Do you get drenched? Does it make a difference where you sit? Did it have a long line?
If anyone could answer those questions, I'd be grateful. Thanks!
I have ridden it 4 times.It sort of does make a difference where you sit,but it sort of doesn't.because when the ride rises out of the station,the front row sometimes stays in the front or sometimes it will swap spots with the back.And the back will also do the same.So when your in line for the the front row it really turns out your goingto end up on the back row.Usually the back row does alot more flips and summersaults.Really you don't know which row you are going to end up in when you are in line for it.
You really dont get drenched just wet,well you can tell where the restraint held you in because that's the only spot thats dry on your shirt.And if you don't want to get wet look for a seat infront of a fountain that is broken,or swap your seat for one.Also the end seats on the sides don't get that wet.
The Lines For Cliffhanger on a weekday are not that bad,it's like a 15 minute wait on a week day.I have not been to Lagoon on a weekend.so I can't tell you about the lines for it on a weekend.
One thing I would like to mention..When you ride try to be by small people,because there is no elbow room at all,I sat by my friend and he weighs 230 pounds and there was no room for your arms at all,Its also the same for Samaurai.
Also,You really dont sit in the water that long,Its really fast.usually when you go through the water when you spin fast you don't even get wet.
I hope that answeres your questions.
Let's hope for a new coaster in the next few years,but knowing Lagoon don't expect one for the next 2 decades.
I rode Cliffhanger yesterday and I have to say I was disappointed. The gondolas were locked for most of the ride and when they were unlocked, they just swung back and forth. The water was fun, but I nearly lost a contact from the water spraying in my face. Well, maybe I just got a dull ride cycle, cause I found Cliffhanger to be a mediocre ride.
I've got pics (thanks to RidgeStone Park) up on my site if you want to see what the ride looks like. It's different than I thought it would be. I don't really think it looks too bad.
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I think Cliffhanger might be a better ride if it was operated at higher speeds. I don't know if this is possible, but it seemed a little slow. Also, unlock the gondolas at more interesting locations. Example: On nearly every ride cycle I saw, the gondolas were unlocked while the ride was positioned parallel with the ground, causing them to only rock back and forth. If the gondolas were unlocked while the ride was positioned perpendicular to the ground (which is upside down), they would swing more and most likely make a complete inversion or come very close. I never saw a gondola make a complete inversion while unlocked.
I hate to sound like a snob, but I was really let down by Cliffhanger. It has so much potential but it just doesn't use it. I'm going back to Lagoon May 30th, and I'll give Cliffhanger another try (if the line isn't very long) and hopefully I can change my tune. It's still a fun ride, but not as amazing as it was made out to be.
umm...May 30th? are you sure thats right?
well anyways,When I was there I only saw the back row do one full inversion and that was it.I also think that if they left the gondolas unlocked for atleast a whole cycle,that would be really cool.
I think that Lagoon probaly could've put in a better ride then that.Like a rollercoaster,but hey Lagoon is cheap!
