La Ronde 2007: Six Flags is into preservation??!!

Monday, March 26, 2007 9:23 AM
After the 2002 season, Six Flags removed a very old, in rough shape, 1885 Carousel from La Ronde and replaced it with a brand new Chance Morgan fiberglass model.

Rumors are going around Six Flags is going to scrap it or sell it to someone else. But, surprise, surprise, Six Flags approved the budget to completely refurbish it and then install it back into the park for the 2007 season. They say it cost Six Flags 1.5 million CDN$ to restore it.

Here's a link: http://expo67.ncf.ca/expo_67_40th_anniversary_edition_p1.html

I'm shocked! Its the last thing I expected Six Flags to do, after the way they thrashed a few of our rides in 2003. They also removed the OVNI this year. The OVNI was a Huss Discoround. It was Huss version of the Gravitron and it tilted a bit, as well as having seats that slided up and down the walls.

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Monday, March 26, 2007 9:32 AM
It does shock me that SF is doing a resto job on an old ride. CP or any other park you expect that type of stuff but SF????????
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Monday, March 26, 2007 11:24 AM
Hopman,

Your kidding right? The last time I checked, the Journey to the Center of the Earth, the Bumper Car, and original entrance to Thunderhawk complex, were still gone, at the hands of Cedar Fair. So, hell no! I don't expect preservation out of CP.

As far as SF goes, ever since they made the comment about getting more value out of scrapping the Astroworld coasters (Not all of them, just certain ones.), any preservation that comes from them will be scrutinized by me. In this case, they probably wouldn't get the kind of money they were asking for with the scrapping idea, so they unwilingly decided to restore it.

Maybe, they think that this one small attempt will change everyones minds, and make them forget all about the Astroworld incident.

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Monday, March 26, 2007 11:59 AM
NOT getting into CF's preservation vs. SF's.

But I *will* say that restoration of a 120+ year-old carousel is a FABULOUS thing. I love ANY ride that managed to survive thru the Depression to continue to entertain and amuse into the 21st Century. Old carousels are among my favorites.

P.S. The 1908 Riverview Carousel is still alive and well at SFoG, 99 years young!

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Monday, March 26, 2007 12:01 PM
I don't think anyone in Montreal really gives a damn what happened 1800 miles away in Houston, TX.

-Nate

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Monday, March 26, 2007 12:01 PM
I saw new pics of Discovery Kingdom out west and it looks very different from Six Flags in past. With Shapiro you be seeing really neat ideas that just flop but we will see alot more great Ideas. Just in opinion.
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Monday, March 26, 2007 2:00 PM
I'm talking about preservation of CLASSIC rides. Look at Cedar Downs. It's one of THREE carusels of that type left IN THE WORLD!!! They're still maintaing and running it like no tomarrow.
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Monday, March 26, 2007 4:26 PM
Coasterphan, you're kidding right?

While we're on the subject of Dorney, when did they trash the Coaster (Thunderhawk), Whip, or Zephyr?

What about those signs that popped up in the park recently highlighting the history of the park?

There's a lot more to preservation than just "not getting rid of old things". Sometimes it's just not plausible. Other times, philosophies change. You're talking about rides that were trashed 15 years ago! A lot can change in 15 years - like quadrupling the size of the company (and thus having a bigger bankroll to be able to preserve things)

Now let's take our attention over to Cedar Point.. what's the museum about if it's not Preservation?

Just because they're not the poster-child for ride preservation doesn't mean they're constantly sharpening their axe to take out the next old ride.

It seems you have an axe to grind against CF, though. :)

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Monday, March 26, 2007 7:11 PM
YEah . The Carousel at Great Adventure was built in 1881. They do have some pretty old rides still at their parks.
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Monday, March 26, 2007 7:45 PM

coasterdude318 said:
I don't think anyone in Montreal really gives a damn what happened 1800 miles away in Houston, TX.

-Nate


And I could say the same thing about people in Houston, not giving as damn about a preservation effort by SF, 1800 miles away in Montreal.

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Monday, March 26, 2007 7:47 PM
You certainly could, except you said the exact opposite thing in your post...

-Nate

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Monday, March 26, 2007 7:51 PM

dannerman said:
Coasterphan, you're kidding right?

While we're on the subject of Dorney, when did they trash the Coaster (Thunderhawk), Whip, or Zephyr?

What about those signs that popped up in the park recently highlighting the history of the park?

There's a lot more to preservation than just "not getting rid of old things". Sometimes it's just not plausible. Other times, philosophies change. You're talking about rides that were trashed 15 years ago! A lot can change in 15 years - like quadrupling the size of the company (and thus having a bigger bankroll to be able to preserve things)

Now let's take our attention over to Cedar Point.. what's the museum about if it's not Preservation?

Just because they're not the poster-child for ride preservation doesn't mean they're constantly sharpening their axe to take out the next old ride.

It seems you have an axe to grind against CF, though.


Funny how you think I have an axe to grind with CF, and tried to cut me down to size with 4 paragraphs to attack my opinions, but somehow managed to forget that I also attacked the excellent preservation efforts of SF as well.

Seems, like you have an axe to grind against anyone with a negative opinion towards Cedar Point. *** Edited 3/26/2007 11:53:15 PM UTC by Coasterphan***

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Monday, March 26, 2007 8:11 PM
Six Flags has a first rate record of preservation unequaled by its peers in the amusement industry.

Astroworld.

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Monday, March 26, 2007 9:35 PM
wow.. nice reply coasterphan. That was a wordy way of saying "I know you are but what am I".. what made it even funnier was that you apparently edited the post to add it. Thanks - I needed a laugh!

Just in case I need to spell it out for you:

I didn't forget anything. My reply was towards your cynicism of someone ELSE'S opinion that CF is impossible to preserve. It had nothing to do with Six Flags or your opinion thereof. My intro was mocking how YOU so quickly dismissed someone ELSE. You can dish it out but can't take it? That's big of you.

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Monday, March 26, 2007 10:08 PM
Dannyboy,

The edit was for the fact that I typed an G instead of an F when I typed the word forget(Gorget, was what I spelled originally.), but you keep that speculation of yours going, if that's what makes you feel important.

How's this for an edit;

Nah.........Nah, Nah........Na.......Nah, Nah!

BTW, you still never responded to my attacks on SF. *** Edited 3/27/2007 2:11:11 AM UTC by Coasterphan***

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Monday, March 26, 2007 10:13 PM
Instead, of another edit. Yes, I now read your entire holier than thou post, and you did in fact finally respond to the SF comments.
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Monday, March 26, 2007 10:18 PM
oh! It *DOES* get better! Now you have to resort to name-calling. This is just too hilarious.. I'm out of this discussion before I puncture a lung or something from laughing so hard!

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you edited to fix a typo (even though you haven't fixed the typo on your original post.. "your kidding".. what about my kidding? :) ) That doesn't make your behavior or your posts any less amusing. Especially with the contradiction that was pointed out by someone else. You go ahead and reply. I know you will. I'm not replying in this thread anymore (unless it's unrelated to anything you say)

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Monday, March 26, 2007 10:47 PM

dannerman said:
oh! It *DOES* get better! Now you have to resort to name-calling. This is just too hilarious.. I'm out of this discussion before I puncture a lung or something from laughing so hard!

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you edited to fix a typo (even though you haven't fixed the typo on your original post.. "your kidding".. what about my kidding? ) That doesn't make your behavior or your posts any less amusing. Especially with the contradiction that was pointed out by someone else. You go ahead and reply. I know you will. I'm not replying in this thread anymore (unless it's unrelated to anything you say)



wow.. nice reply coasterphan. That was a wordy way of saying "I know you are but what am I".. what made it even funnier was that you apparently edited the post to add it. Thanks - I needed a laugh!


This insinuation wasn't an a attack, by you, about my intellect in anyway, RIGHT!

Yet, I'm the one who started trying to belittle a poster. Holier than thou till the end I see.


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Monday, March 26, 2007 11:17 PM

Absimilliard said:
After the 2002 season, Six Flags removed a very old, in rough shape, 1885 Carousel from La Ronde and replaced it with a brand new Chance Morgan fiberglass model.

Rumors are going around Six Flags is going to scrap it or sell it to someone else. But, surprise, surprise, Six Flags approved the budget to completely refurbish it and then install it back into the park for the 2007 season. They say it cost Six Flags 1.5 million CDN$ to restore it.

Here's a link: http://expo67.ncf.ca/expo_67_40th_anniversary_edition_p1.html

I'm shocked! Its the last thing I expected Six Flags to do, after the way they thrashed a few of our rides in 2003. They also removed the OVNI this year. The OVNI was a Huss Discoround. It was Huss version of the Gravitron and it tilted a bit, as well as having seats that slided up and down the walls.


Absimilliard,

To your original post, I'm glad to hear that the carousel will in fact be restored. It reminds me of restoration efforts by parks like Knoebels, or Lakemont, to name a few.

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Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:08 AM
I just wish someone would break out the preservation efforts for Opryland's German "Carousel on the Lake". That thing was GORGEOUS. It's the only one I've ever seen with rolling stock chariots on an undulating track instead of horses. I assume Gaylord still has it in a warehouse somewhere.

Nice to see SF doing something like this for a change.

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