Knott's warns off riders of "extreme size"

Being a "bigger guy", (6'0, 260) I appreciate the test seats at the start of a que line. I wish that PKI had one for Drop Zone when I rode it. I did manage to get stapled in, but I carried the brusies from my ride for two days.

If someone is to embarassed to utilize the test seats, it is their own fault after they have waited in line. The seats are there for a reason. Use them! :)

-Eric

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E Blitz Entertainment
Bay City, Michigan

How many "big boy" seats would be enough? And where would they place them? There sure as hell wouldn't be in the prime front and back rows, so they will probably be in the middle somewhere. Before you know it, these "big people" will cause a stink because they put the seats in the lousiest part of the train. It will just be a big mess.

Why stop there? Why not put "little people" seats for the kids too?

There are several problem with the "test seats" though.

#1.. most people don't use them.
#2.. while they are actually seats. They don't actually "lock" in the actuall position so they are pretty pointless. I have seen people sit in the Raptor and MF test seats and STILL not be able to ride once at the ride because the test seat never actually "locks" in a position needed to ride the ride.

To make them do this, You'd need another ride-op to lock and unlock the test seat and honestly, wouldn't be worth the parks time for the small # of guests it is used for.

Again, it comes down to a matter of, do they endanger the masses/majority to accomodate a minority that the rides were not designed for.

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June 11th, 2001 - Gemini 100
VertiGo Rides - 82 - Farewell my good friend..

I still contend that the whole notion of a "big boy" seat is absurd. I've *never* seen nor heard of a time when a smaller rider was barred from riding in the so-called "big boy" seat. If that size seat can accomodate the smallest allowable rider as well as offering a broader *upper* limit, then those are the seats that should be used throughout the train!

Too expensive you say? Just add a dime to everything you sell in the park (souvieners, sodas, funnel cakes, etc...) I *bet* you'd more than recoup the cost!

That way it's either a Go or No Go decision. You can fit in one seat? Then pick which ever one you like. You cannot fit in a seat? Please move on and enjoy one of our other 99 rides, shows, and attraction!
lata,
jeremy
--who would actually like to invest in some products to gain weight

Why was my message that I posted deleted?

Because it was insensitive and arrogant, two less than charming qualities for someone's first post.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

As a large person, I try to test the seat before I stand in a long line. I have been disappointed several times and crammed into a harness more than once. I do respect the ride ops decision. If I can't ride then I step aside and allow others to take my place. When did our society decide that everyone is entitled to ride every ride? I love thrill rides, but not to the point that I will demand to ride one, in an unsafe manner.

2Hostyl brings up a good question... What is the difference between the "big boy" seat and a regular seat? On one of my rides on Kraken, there was no line for the middle seat so I sat there, in a "big boy" seat. It didn't feel any different than a regular seat, except for the fact that it had a double belt to attach.

I think that if overweight people want to get on a certain and the park gives adequate warnings about possible risks of getting on the ride, then it is the riders decision to ride despite the warnings given by the park and it makes them responsible for whatever happens to them (related to weight) on the ride. Of course, some people don't know where to draw the line and parks don't want to have an accident on their hands so the park has every right to restrict riders from getting on a ride because of their physical characteristics.

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"Maybe the restraints will work better next time!"

This is truely sad. I mean, can't they make speacil sets for people that are over weight. everyone should be able to ride all coasters and all water rides that they want. I think they should check into coming out with some speacil seats. some coasters already have been built with speacil seats. just a thought.

Cedar Fair in my eyes is definately taking the appropriate steps towards stopping lawsuits for one thing, but more importantly, raising rider awareness about the fact that you do risk death to a certain extent if you are suffering from a condition wether it be heart conditions or obesity. The thought of catering to "larger" people is quite rediculous, due to the fact that when riders of other statures try and board, they are also turned away, yet no ideas are modifications are made to cater their needs. Case and point would be smaller or skinnier riders. Does this mean that we will soon be seeing OTSR's with more padding or books on seats?

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Remember The Future?

paladin: Disclaimers don't mean anything. If the park allows someone to ride who doesn't fit in the restraints and gets tossed, even if it was the rider's choice, the park will get sued and most certainly lose.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

Well, without getting into any discrimination - the larger folks need to be aware that there is a possibility that they may not properly fit in evertype of seat made. Ride manufactures can only make the seats just so big and without a real practical expandable plastic resin that can expand that much, this does pose a dilemma. What a thread - I am suprised no one has come up with some wise cracks on here. It is one of those topics that is wide open for just about anything.

Anyway, Ride safety is important and sometimes people may think that they can make it through the ride with no injury if the restratin is slightly tight. Then you read about in the headlines of the news paper the next day.