Kinzel and Company seen checking out PKI....

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:56 PM
Went to PKI yesterday, 6-14-05, and saw some cedar fair people there. kinzel, Collingwood, Jackson, and I think who might have been Falfas were checking out the park. Unlike last year when some came to check out only the huss frisbee, they were seen everywhere from the beast to the shrimp shack. I remeber rumors that viacom may have been trying to sell some of their amusement parks and that cedar fair was a likely buyer.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:59 PM
eightdotthree's avatar OMG THEY ARE GETTING A BEAST CLONE!!!?!!

:)

I can't imagine CF buying PKI, but then again anything can happen.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:02 PM
Hopefully they checked out IJST, Scooby Doo, Beastie, and Runaway Reptar. Oh and SOB just so they know what not to do with that woodie by the lake...


"Ask not what your rest home can do for you. Ask what you can do for your rest home." - Bruce Campbell as Elvis Presley in Bubba Ho-Tep

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:02 PM
PKI and the other Viacom parks owned by Viacom will be sold to investors inside the Viacom corporate ladder.

I look for little to no outside change other than the new owners paying Viacom royalties on Viacom branded shows and names.

Chuck, who doubts CF will be able to compete in a bidding war with these guys.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:24 PM
I heard that CF will buy PKI and they will add an extension to the SOB. It will be Mean Streak that becomes the extension. (lol)

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:24 PM
They visit every year, TMK.

PKI marketing folks visit CP every 2 or 3 years TMK.

I doubt Cedar Fair would ever buy controlling interest in Paramount Parks.

Shaggy


Shaggy

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:39 PM
I doubt CF would be buying the park but after the purchase of Knott's and Geauga Lake I wouldn't rule anything out.

The other possibility, though remote, is that a group of Viacom investors might by the park and then hire Cedar Fair under a management park like was the case with Camp Snoopy at the Mall of America.

The list of players who were visiting is curious. Kinzel and Falfas make sense if it was just an operational visit. The addition of Jackson and Collingwood, if it really was them, peaks my curiosity seeing as they are both short timers and are retiring this year.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:54 PM
Ok, should have said management contract...not park.

The other thing curious about this visit is the timing. Dick has a lot of parks getting up and running right now and has some significant issues to address with Geauga Lake.

A "just checking out the competition" visit at this time in the year does seem odd.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:55 PM
Maybe they just got the BeastBuzz date wrong.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:06 PM
beast7369's avatar Did it occur to anyone that they maybe needed a day off from Cedar Point and what a better way to spend a day off then to have fun where hardly anyone else knows who you are so they arent bombarded with papparazi tools everywhere they go. Sure maybe they went to check out the new Italian Job....you just might see something like it at one of their parks if they like it. Or maybe they were checking out some other ride the PKI has that Cedar Point doesnt before they decide to invest the capital into one. They did that wih Max Air.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:16 PM
Beast, you may be right...but that doesn't explain why Jackson and Collingwood would be tagging along.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:40 PM
Mamoosh's avatar My guess: their visit it tied to the rumor of a major ride being removed from PKI's line-up. And now we know its going to a CF park.

So...who's getting stuck with Vortex? MiA? Valleyfair? ;)

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:43 PM
Of course moosh. How did I miss that. My guess is it will go to World's of Fun, get some red paint and be called... The Patriot! Everybody over there is whining about the loss of Orient Express... well, this is as close as they could get!

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:45 PM
Mamoosh's avatar Dayum, DR...why didn't I see that? It totally makes sense! ;)
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:54 PM

Mamoosh said:
My guess: their visit it tied to the rumor of a major ride being removed from PKI's line-up. And now we know its going to a CF park.

So...who's getting stuck with Vortex? MiA? Valleyfair? ;)


Why would the head of the entire company go check out the ride? With how CF operates it would be the park GM, not kinzel. I do not think CF would ever ever ever buy a major ride and build it at their one of their parks, thats just crazy.

The poster said they were visiting every ride as well as resturants, im guessing if they arent gonna buy it they were just simply seeing how the park operates..seing if any of their methods can help CP.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:57 PM
Kinzel to PKI rideop: Tell us your secrets! I have Dippin' Dots...:)
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:59 PM
Mamoosh's avatar jar - perhaps these will help:

Main Entry: hu·mor
Pronunciation: 'hyü-m&r, 'yü-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English humour, from Middle French humeur, from Medieval Latin & Latin; Medieval Latin humor, from Latin humor, umor moisture; akin to Old Norse vokr damp, Latin humEre to be moist, and perhaps to Greek hygros wet
3 a : that quality which appeals to a sense of the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous b : the mental faculty of discovering, expressing, or appreciating the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous c : something that is or is designed to be comical or amusing.

Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms>
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm <this is no time to indulge in sarcasm>

*** Edited 6/15/2005 8:04:01 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:24 PM
You even made the stupid smiley face that I refuse to make when I am not being serious. No one ever accused your average person of being able to understand sarcasm.
Down is the new up.
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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:01 PM
rollergator's avatar CF has GOT to be purchasing AstroWorld....that way they'd HAVE a park where they could put the relocated Vortex! ;)

See! I used the winky-face too...LOL! :)

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:06 PM
This is pretty interesting. As a conspiracy theorist I have to bring out this possibility.

Perhaps part of Kinzel's retirement plans also includes the annexation of PKI into the Cedar Fair family. In effect, owning every large amusement park in the Ohio market.

*** Edited 6/15/2005 8:43:55 PM UTC by CPgenius***


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