Kingda Ka vs. TTD

Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:18 PM
i was just wondering for the people who have ridden both of these if Kingda Ka has the same problem of making it over the top of the hill as TTD does. I was just curious because i just got back from cedar point and i was scared to death when one of the trains didnt make it over the hill. I want to ride one of these coasters but i am a little shaky. Thanks
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:31 PM
They6 both have issues where it won't make it over the top hat. There is nothing to worry and its totally safe to fall back down to earth. Consider yourself luck if you get a roll back!
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:41 PM
i also has a big question, sorry for changing the topic but what is the "wheel incident" WITH TTD? it seems to me that parks are taking big risks when the make coasters that arent for sure 100% fool proof.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:44 PM
When Dragster opened, the theming on the trains included large wheels attached to the back of the trains to make them look more like dragster cars. The "wheel of death" incident that you speak of was when one of the wheels fell off of the train and landed on the ground, thankfully away from people. After that happened, the wheels were removed, and an extra row of seats was added.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:51 PM
oh ok...well...thats sort of bad.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:13 PM
I think that Kingda Ka is better because of the faster speed and the taller height and i dont care if its by 1 mph it is better that TTD because of also the airtime hill WOWIE!
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:13 PM
Going back to jammin's second post, there isn't a single coaster or amusement ride out there that is 100% fool-proof. Human beings are far from perfect (such as your inability to write coherent sentences, for example), and therefore we are unable to manufacture anything that is guaranteed not to crash, break down, or injure anyone. While coaster manufacturers and contractors spend years developing safety and backup systems for rides, the bottom line is that we are knowingly taking a risk when we ride a roller coaster or amusement ride. For example, when we ride TTD, we know that there is a tiny chance that the cable could break, and it's already been proved that this event can cause personal injuries. However, that doesn't stop anyone from riding, because in the scheme of things, amusement parks are some of the safest forms of recreation available.

Roll-backs on Dragster are not safety issues, however. Because of physics, the forces of nature, and the design of the launch mechanism, every train is not going to make it over the top. Intamin knew this was going to happen, and as a result designed a magnetic braking system on the launch track that deploys after the train has left a particular segment. If a train rolls back for whatever reason, it simply stops, and slowly rolls back to the launch area. There is nothing unsafe about this action, and as Crashmando pointed out, most people consider themselves extremely lucky to experience one. *** Edited 6/19/2005 11:14:26 PM UTC by PhantomTails***

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Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:44 PM
Dennis that hill at the end of KK isn't air time. It just slows you down. It sucks and is a big tease. I;ve ridden both KK and TTD and TTD is so much better.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:05 PM
Both are 25 million dollar lawn ornaments. In before close.

Katie

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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:22 PM
I have only ridden TTD, and I think that they are probably both the same, because once you are up that high and are going that fast, you are not going to notice the difference, IMO. Now i'm not going to get the chance to do KK, for the obvious big reason.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:26 PM
I've ridden both and I honestly like TTD more. While the OTSR's on KK aren't that bad..they are still, well OTSR's. I LOVE the lapbars on MF and TTD, they are comfortable and give you more freedom to move. I also think the laucnh on TTD is more intense, just my opinion. Also I got no air on the camelback on KK, maybe it's just me. And lastly I love how TTD is situated right in the middle of the park, while KK is off near the parking lots. Both are great coasters, but in my opinion TTD is still the better experience.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:29 PM
Thankfully Ive been on both rides to give you an answer. KK does give you air but only in the front on that second hill. Its like Goliath's airtime hill before the MCB. TTD does give you that speed feeling at the bottom of the hill. Think of Apollo's Chariot at the bottom of the first drop when it travels over the straight track before the second hill. In my opinion KK was better because I perfer added airtime but thats the only way i could distinguish the two. Its all up to your own tastes *** Edited 6/20/2005 12:30:43 AM UTC by socalcoaster***
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:53 PM
I didn't find it at all like Goliath's hill. Goliath actually had a good bit of air where KK's didn't have any.

I found KK to have a less intense launch, a worse view, worse restraints, worse vibration in the trains. The extra height and the extra hill really didn't do anything and the lack of theming really made the ride suffer. All in all I'd take TTD any day of the week. That said, KK does seem to have better capacity (when it's actually running all 4 trains well, which is pretty rare, even on good days).

Oh yeah, and GAdv. is my home park and I still manage to be a CP fanboy. ;) *** Edited 6/20/2005 12:54:27 AM UTC by ApolloAndy***

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Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:57 PM
Yea yea yea, that's the way to do it. I'm in the same situation.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:55 PM
I haven't ridden either coaster, but I find it odd that anyone would feel that KK launch is less intense considering it launches to a higher speed in a shorter time period.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:15 PM
It's not all about the launch, and it doesn't work that way.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:17 PM

ApolloAndy said:


I found KK to have a less intense launch, a worse view, worse restraints, worse vibration in the trains. The extra height and the extra hill really didn't do anything and the lack of theming really made the ride suffer. All in all I'd take TTD any day of the week. That said, KK does seem to have better capacity (when it's actually running all 4 trains well, which is pretty rare, even on good days).


I agree with what you said, and I also have a SF park as my homepark (SFGAm) but when I rode KK it just didn't seem as intense during the launch. And I love how there are always at least 50 people watching a TTD launch since it's right in the middle of the park and you can walk right up next to the launch track (within 10 feet of it).

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Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:23 PM
Yes, that really gets you pumped up, to have people watching and pointing. Are the bleachers still there?
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:28 PM
In before close.
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Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:36 PM
I have only riden TTD and I am a cpfanman, to old to be a boy. :} From what I can tell, from reading about KK, and posts on here, TTD's launch may seem more intense because almost imediately after the catch car releases you go vertical. Doesn't KK coast for a bit before the hill? Also, I know KK has the foghorn they blow before the launch but there is something about that rumbling engine noise and the Christmas tree that really gets your heart pounding.

P.S. please don't close the thread untill it gets nasty. So far everyone is being cival. *** Edited 6/20/2005 2:38:36 AM UTC by Grady***

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