That's what I have to say...lets hear from all of you! Please comment. Take care!
A bust? Nope. Not at all. It serves a purpose, and seems fairly popular. Plus it has a really pretty station front. I don't dis-like the ride, but I don't think it is a Gem either. I also don't miss the point, but it just isn't my cup o' joe.
Why do I not think it deserves a 9/10 or a 10/10? Because I would rather go across the midway and ride Phantom. I regard that as a 10/10. It has floater and ejector air. It has speed. It has height (in a sense). it has terrain. My favorite coaster. The only thing that could make it better is if it ran to capacity all the time. I rate different types of coasters differently, but to get high, they have to be unique.
I rate Racer about a 5 (I believe, don't have my rankings at work). It is Average on a 0-10 scale. Average means that ever coaster should be AT LEAST this good in my opinion. Anything above average is something that has a little extra. If I rate something a 5, I like it, but I just don't want to power ride it all day long, and I probably wouldn't wait more than 20 minutes for it.
Oh, who am I kidding? I won't wait more than 20 min. for a perfect 10...I'm spoiled like that.
Maybe I always rode it on good days, but I do remember some air time in front and back, as well as some laterals. That ride is beautiful!
I appriciate your input Tekno.
-Jeff *** Edited 8/20/2005 5:46:55 AM UTC by Jeff Reim***
I rate Racer about a 5 (I believe, don't have my rankings at work). It is Average on a 0-10 scale.
Yes, but you're one of those rare individuals who understand how to use the whole 0-10 scale.
For some reason these days, 6/10 is considered bad by some people. Go figure.
I guess I'm old-skool - I see 6/10 and think, "Ooh, better than average"
More on subject, I'm kind of like Tekno. The ride falls in the 'average' range. It's a coaster. I ride it every time I'm at KW, but I don't go out of my way to get to it, nor would I endure more than a brisk wait for it.
I'd probably award it a solid 5/10 or 55/100 - on the upside of average.
So with that being said although not the greatest or best, the racer to me is still a gem for those previous reasons stated. It doesnt have to be a 10/10 to provide what you need, it just serves a purpose to show that greatness isnt measured in intensity but, by the quality you are getting.
It's not super thrilling, although it is very fun. It's not loaded with airtime or speed, but it has nostalgia and it is quite unique. Personally, I don't rate rides. I either enjoy it or I don't. I did enjoy The Racer on my visit but I can also see why some people might come away being disappointed by the ride. I guess it just turns out to be something different than they were expecting.
I would consider The Racer a gem. It's a prime example of the coasters of yesteryear, and it's something we will probably never see again. I mean, it's really hard to imagine a park building another coaster like that, and for that reason it's quite unique. I think this is probably the reason it is so highly regarded among enthusiasts, be it thrilling or not.
Hmm, maybe I'll tell my parents that next time I get a 55% on a test. It's the upside of average mom!
Don't get me started on test scores and how they aren't a test of your true intelligence...:)
Yes, Gonch, I do get the 0-10 rating thing. I suck at math, but I payed attention the day they talked about averages. Heck, Hot or Not rates me above average. I'm not gonna say what it rates me, but it is far enough above a '5', which is average, that I'm happy with my rating (take that stupid girl at the beach that didn't like my shirt and said I was ugly!).
I don't seperate coasters. I prefer wood and hyper and inverts. But I rate each coaster with a number that usually corresponds to a reaction/response. Phantom? I rate it 10. Swamp Fox? 10. In fact, I rate my entire top 10 a 10, because I feel that they all are perfect in their own way. The reason Swamp Fox is 2 and Phantom is 1 and so on in the top ten is because I feel that that is the best of that type of coaster I've ridden. Sure, I have more than 2 woodies and more than one hyper in my top 5. Why? Because one is out and back, one is terrain, one is figure 8, one is twister, etc. But I prefer a specific type of coaster over another, and that is how I go about sorting out the top ten.
Confused yet? Good. So am I ;).
But I think Racer is a good, solid ride. Every other ride out there should use it (and all my other average 5 ranked coasters) as the standard by which they ride. If something is a 4 then I may still like it, but it was slightly rough, or slightly boring. If it is a 1? It wasn't very enjoyable in any way, and I'll skip it on another visit, unless I'm with a friend that hasn't ridden it and won't ride it alone. A 0? I won't be riding it again.
I don't think I have any 0s at this point, Though Vortex PCar is close (just ask Andy ;) ).
But if every coaster under a 5 on my list was given what it needed to be a 5, then I'd be very happy. I would ride it everytime I'm at the park it is in, barring any longer than 20 min. waits.
And it's all subjective too. What do the numbers 1 and 10 really mean? Should a person who's a seasoned enthusiast be the only ones to give out 10s? If you give out a 10, but have only been to a park or two based on limited experience, then does that accurately reflect how good the Racer is vs. other woodies?
In other words, not everyone experiences the same sensations, and they may be comparing it to other rides. To tell people that based on engineering standards back then that people should give it a fair shake doesn't hold a lot of water. If people aren't having an exciting ride, then they're allowed to vote the way they do.
By the way, I don't think the Racer is bad. The drop after the turnaround back towards the station is pretty good.
More realistically, for coasters fall into 5 general categories:
A - Cream of the crop coasters. These are my absolute favorites. They deliver for me in every aspect. I try to ride these as much as possible and would travel for another shot. Maybe 10 or 12 coasters in my track record (of 249) fall into this area.
B - Very good coasters. These rides do it for me more than most. I make it a priority to ride this coaster when at the park in which it resides. I'd prefer to ride more than once, but if I don't, I'll live. If a trip took us relatively close to these coasters, I'd go a little off the beaten path to sample it again. Maybe another 30 or 35 of my track record fall into this zone.
C - Average coasters. These deliver standard rides. The ride is enjoyable and I'm glad to be on it. I wouldn't go out of my way to ride these and I'm not even necessarily disappointed if I miss them while at the park. If I do get a chance to ride, it is a positive experience. The vast majority of coasters I've ridden fall into this category (including Racer).
D - Coaster that leave me with a 'meh', 'blah' or otherwise indifferent feeling. I'll ride if the line is short or the group I'm with wants to. I wouldn't wait very long for a ride on these coasters. These rides aren't bad, the just don't do it for me. Maybe 50 of the coasters I've ridden fall here.
E - The coasters that suck. These are the rides that hurt, the rides that do nothing, the rides that I want to forget. I would make no effort to ride these coasters again and only if several members of the group wanted to ride and it was running walk-on would I consider riding. I'd guess there's not more than a handful of my track record that lands here. At the very most 6 or 7.
To me an average coaster is a very positive experience. The vast majority of coasters you'll come across in life are 'average' - the standouts are few and far between.
Hmm, maybe I'll tell my parents that next time I get a 55% on a test. It's the upside of average mom!
That'd be fine if schools graded on a 0-10 scale. I know of none that do. From my understanding most schools grade on roughly a 6 or 7 to 10 scale.
In general (with variation depending on the school):
9-10 = A
8-9 = B
7-8 = C
6-7 = D
<6 = F
That's a 6-10 scale. Anything 6 or below is the same. On that scale 7 to 8 is average.
On a 0-10 scale, 5 is average.
1. Is the influence of others, what they make seem great might not do it for you, dont fall into the idea that its great because others say it was. I know some people take the words of others.
2. The experience can very from day to day or ride to ride. (The Villain rings a good one for me!)
3. Everything actually shouldnt be compared, how about that, i mean if there is anything i learned my mom is best at this. She compares everything to cedar point. I happen to think there is a different experience to rides and even the parks themselves that make them such a great thing to experience. KW is something that rates a whole lot different than many other places, because of the whole feel. Comfortability is one thing, but being outta place is where things can get fun.
I started keeping track for myself. When someone asks my opinion, I give it and the reason behind it.
This coming from a guy that, yet again, skipped 2 kiddy coaster credits this week, and in fact, didn't even ride any coasters, in an area with 3 parks, one of which has my #2 coaster. I didn't ride it. And I stayed in a room less than 100 yards from it. I could hear it at nite in the room.
Oh, and I like Arrow and Togo. Most people can't believe I rate a Togo Standup above all the B&M standups I've ridden. At this point, I've ridden all but 2 B&M standups, and only 2 Togos. I like Togos better. I'm a sick and twisted kinda guy. But hey, this is just a hobby.
After I got that initial list together, I tightened it up a little and add to it every trip we take. Nothing official, but it makes sorting out the list each fall for the poll a bit easier. Plus, without that list I would've never noticed the general trend of the 5 categories I listed above.
As far as track record, it's overrated. If I truly credit whored and rode every coaster I stumbled by, I'd be somewhere around 320. That's about 70 coasters I've passed on in the past 5 years. Sure, some were kiddies or clones or whatnot, but many are not. This past June I only picked up 6 of the coasters at SFGAm (and that's counting AE as 2) - I was just having a good time with the family. The numbers aren't important, the fun is.
Which kind of comes full circle. Who cares what other people think? Do you enjoy Racer? That's all that really matters. Ride it and have a blast! :)
And as for Racer, I say ride it, enjoy it, and wave to me in passing whilst I head over to Phantom.
It's obviously doing something right......it always has the longest lines, even on "slow" days.
I think the Racer is a lot more fun with a train full of enthusiasts. Hand-slapping galore! We did that back in May, and it was a TON of fun.
I however think, if KW wants to expand, they aren't gonna tear down Racer. I mean it will be 80 years old, and it's one of three moebius coasters in the world. I wouldn't want them tearing anything out of KW. It takes away from the charm.
If they tore out any ride to put in a say B&M hyper, I would think KW would lose it's charm. IMO. I could care less if KW ever adds another coaster. (OMG I said it.) KW has a ton of stuff to do, enough modern rides to satisfy thrill seekers, and enough old(er) rides for kids and grandparents to enjoy as well.
But, like someone said, Racer, usually has the longest lines all day. Between 30-40 minutes. For an old coaster, it sure does pretty well. Wouldn't you say? Not that I am bashing anyone's opinion of the coaster. I am not.
By the way if you want AIR on Racer, ride in the back seat. You will get ejector air on the last hill.
<--being a smartass too early in the morning.
I don't see the Racer going anywhere. :-)
*** Edited 8/20/2005 12:50:13 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
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