Jaguar Question

Friday, August 8, 2003 7:22 AM
I noticed while recently at Knott's Berry Farm that the track for Jaguar is an I beam looking thing. I also noticed that it had only one set of upstop wheels. Doesn't that wear away at the side friction wheels? or did I just not examine the wheels well enough?

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Friday, August 8, 2003 7:39 AM
I dont think the upstop wheels are used that often in the ride. I dont think there is any point in the ride where the forces pull the train off the track.
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Friday, August 8, 2003 12:36 PM
Hmmm...there must be guide wheels on it. I never looked though.

Ya know the Whizzer only had road wheels and an angled set of wheels somewhere between upstop and guide wheels. The wheels were grooved which keeps the trains locked on. (then again, I could be completely wrong)

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*** This post was edited by janfrederick 8/8/2003 4:37:16 PM ***

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Friday, August 8, 2003 12:42 PM
IIRC Jaguar has road and guide wheels and only pads [like the Arrow mine trains] for upstops.

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Friday, August 8, 2003 12:52 PM

You mean like rubber pads that just hold the ride on? and wouldn't that slow down the ride?

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I am one.
I am Turbo.
Top Thrill in the front row... anything else is lame

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Friday, August 8, 2003 1:08 PM
No, they're metal [brass?] but they aren't touching the track.

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Friday, August 8, 2003 1:17 PM
Did you guys ever see all the sparks flying off those metal plates when the train goes over the air hills?

Truly awe-inspiring.

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Friday, August 8, 2003 1:27 PM
Really Chris?? I haven't seen that, I wish I knew that before I went so I could have witnessed it. I'm typing a trip report on KBF and SFMM

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I am one.
I am Turbo.
Top Thrill in the front row... anything else is lame

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Friday, August 8, 2003 1:28 PM
The upstop pads on CP's Gemini used to be small but they would wear out too quickly. This year they've installed maxi-pads.

mOOSH

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Friday, August 8, 2003 2:24 PM
I could understand installing them on Maggie...but Gemini?? ;)

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Friday, August 8, 2003 7:14 PM
This is going down hill fast..................
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Friday, August 8, 2003 8:05 PM
And very soon, they'll realise that they needed the ones with wings. ;)

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Friday, August 8, 2003 10:29 PM
Well, Gemini is prone to leaks...

Magnum opened with the pads, but sparked too much. Then came the wheels.

Gemini and CCMR both have pads (although I think CCMR just has a metal rod).

I've never seen Gemini spark... nor provide enough airtime to do so.

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Friday, August 8, 2003 10:40 PM
Speaking of sparks, does anyone have a clue as to where I might find video or pictures of Magnum sparking at night in '89? I remember the sparks pretty well, but I'd really like to see some video or afew pictures of it.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 9:05 AM
Gemin was giving Maggie Air yesterday and Maggie was giving.... well I don't know what it was giving but it was running unfrigginbelievably well.

I think there may be another "Spawn of Magnum" on the way ;)

Corey I too woul love to see Magnum shots from 89 with the sparks, I very well remeber them. GTTP has POV from Magnum before the trim was moved and the drop into the pretzel reprofiled. Thats the closest thing I can think of.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 4:26 PM
...and in that POV you can hear the upstops shrieking against the rail, if it's the one I think it is...

As for Jaguar (and here I thought it was going to be a thread about MacOS X.2...) I think that's just an overgrown Marienkäfer coaster, with the dual C-channel rails, just like the kiddie coasters at MarineLand, Darien Lake...oh, and how can I forget Roadrunner Express at Geauga Lake?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Saturday, August 9, 2003 4:49 PM
I believe Jaguar! is the largest Zierer Tivoli coaster to date, am I correct? It spans nearly 2,700' in track length.
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Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:54 AM

Darth Saambe said:
And very soon, they'll realise that they needed the ones with wings. ;)

Only on flying coasters.

/threadjacking

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Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:22 PM
I should make a comment about the last post..........Nahhh.
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