Jaguar at Knott's

Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:28 PM
If it's a family Roller Coaster, why did they raise the height to 48 inches (from 42)? I say just keep the cool que line, and make a new rollercoaster.
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Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:32 PM
Since they have the fire, make it into a ride like Volcano, or a floorless would be nice! =)
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Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:36 PM
This reminds me of a topic they had at The Chicago Cubs Message Board when some Dodger fan suggested the Cubs should tear down Wrigley so they could make a big enough stadiums and afford to field a World Series team.  I'll let you guys figure out where that topic went.
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Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:46 PM
If the restraints were modified, than that's a possibility as to why it was raised. Either that, or a safety precaution, due to everything that has gone on in the recent past. The park has been extremely uptight about safety after the Perilous Plunge and Montezooma's Revenge accidents. But it's a good trade, considering Boomerang's 52" height requirement was recently lowered to 48", just a few months ago.
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Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:58 PM
Well, I'm a Cubs fan and a Knotts fan.  I laugh at the idea of Wrigley being torn down.  I welcome the idea of Knotts tearing out Jaguar!  It isn't like the ride has been there for decades or anything.  It has no history.  If they wanted to tear out Monty, that would be dumb, and they would catch some slack about that.  As for Jaguar however, it is only a few years old and never has a line whatsoever.  Hence, from a business standpoint, it is worthless, and we all know that people don't flock to Knotts to ride Jaguar! 

So I say, tear it out, throw it on top of the WindJammer scrap pile, and build a new coaster there too!!!!!

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Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:15 PM
I absolutely disagree.  Jaguar! should not be torn down, but left to please those families with children (they do exist) that are too small to ride the larger rides.  Not every park (like Silverwood) allows smaller children to ride large coasters.  I am a bit dismayed at the height changes, but I bet it is because of a change in restraints like Krax said.  Parks have done enough damage in recent years, to have the current rides, by sacrificing decent enough rides that many people DO ride.  I don't think Jaguar! is exceptional at all, but I disagree that any ride should be torn down, with the exception of a dangerous coaster, or a ride like Windjammer that couldn't run in the wind, no less...  Just my thoughts...
*** This post was edited by nasai on 12/16/2001. ***

*** This post was edited by nasai on 12/16/2001. ***

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Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:18 PM
By the way...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! to Koppman:)

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Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:38 PM
Thanks.  I'm surprised that someone noticed.  Too bad all the rest of the birthdays from today on out don't really mean anything cool anymore.  Nothing can compare to last year's anyway.  I guess that is a different story though and this definitely isn't the time or place for that story either.

Anyway, yeah I can see your point about the smaller children.  I can also see why a lot of people would want it to stay. 

However, talking from the standpoint of a single, 22 year-old selfish thrill seeker with no kids........ I say, tear it down! :)

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Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:38 PM
They should not tare down Jaguar! I actually like that ride and that is the only family coaster there.
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Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:48 AM
Anyone who wants to tear down Jaguar! doesn't understand why it was built in the first place. 

For familes and kids.

With a whole park full of hardcore thrill rides, can't one ride be left for the kids who aren't brave enough/old enough/ tall enough for those rides.

What good would it do to tear it down?  it doesn't actually take up a set plot of land.  It just goes over everything that already exists.  Wouldn't be space for any new coaster, unless it followed a similar path.

A floorless coaster that goes 30mph and has no real first drop?? I would be embarrased.  ;)

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Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:48 PM
WHAT! Why take out Jaguar?!?!  That's my favorite family coaster that I have ever gone on. It's a great ride. They don't have to take it out and I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't.

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Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:19 PM
Jaguar! is a signature ride for KBF, and is ever-so-funky.  Kinda reminds me of the WEDway PeopleMover, but in coaster terms.  That and GR should remain forever...coasters that will appeal to a wide range of tastes.  Nonetheless, I (of course) have a few theming ideas...LOL!  Good to be back ...buwahahahaha....
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Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:42 PM
Jaguar is a fun coaster. I think Knott's should stop building launched and shuttle coasters! Montezooma's Revenge, and Boomerang (wow what an original name) stink! Take those things out. Xcelerator will be the only good launched coaster in CA so take MR and B out PLEASE. And why build another launched sit-down? Knott's has a lot of issues.

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Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:47 PM
DM, Be careful what you wish for, you could lose one of the few remaining Schwarkopf shuttle-loops in the country...I had one 5 hours drive away, and will miss it greatly (RIP Viper).
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Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:45 PM
 I would chain myself to the ride if they ever said that they would take out Montezoomas Revenge.  ;)  You know, like those environmental activists.

Monte is awesome.  In fact, its a piece of Knotts and Coaster history.

Plus its just cool.  Please Please don't bring that sad idea up again.  (I wipe a tear from my eye.  :)  )

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Monday, December 17, 2001 9:42 AM
The cars themselves are pretty tiny, so I don't get the idea of putting taller people in them.
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Monday, December 17, 2001 10:06 AM
IMHO Monty is the best run and maintained steel in So Cal.  And its hella-fun!  I don't see it going anywhere soon.
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Monday, December 17, 2001 11:36 AM
Yes,leave Jaguar where it is.Not everboby can tolerate high intensity rides.When my family and I went to SoCal on vacation in 1997,we went to SFMM and KBF.In retrospect,we should have waited a year,I could have ridden Ghostrider.At SFMM while my sons and I were having a great time riding coasters,all my wife could do was watch us.There is a definite shortage of low intensity attractions at SFMM.At KBF there was a much better mix of low and high intensity attractions,so nobody got bored and none of the long lines like what you encounter at Disneyland.And the chicken dinner at Knotts' cant' be beat for quality and value!
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Monday, December 17, 2001 11:56 AM
Hey Dropkick, one of the reasons Knott's has so called "issues" is a simple limited amount of space. Launch coasters are a perfect fit for this park becuase you eliminate the space needed for a traditional lift hill. Ever notice how the two coasters with lifts have a bit of unorthadox placement? Ghostrider practically leaves the park, Jaguar runs around practically everything. Until the park can address these space issues and expand(if that's even possible), just expect the park to find more creative ways to present thrillrides to the public. And I haven't even mentioned the cranky neighbors yet.  ;)
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Monday, December 17, 2001 11:58 AM
     It was a nicely themed ride with a nice view of the park, and going through Monty's loop was cool. Other then that is was very blah. The line was a very slow moving half an hour. It is however a very nice family ride, but what got me was the Roadrunner Express at my home park SFWoA was more intense. I just think they could have turned it up a bit but it just kind of winds around very slowly. A nice theme and family ride but in all honesty I think even little kids would get bored on it.
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