J2 is now... Puma!

Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:31 PM
At least it's original, and the J2 name is gone. See here.
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:38 PM
Puma > Flight Deck
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:44 PM
I wonder why they bothered to change the name, since nobody cares about what a coaster is called and it has no effect on anyone visiting the park?

;)

-Nate

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:04 PM
Who said it had no affect on people visiting the park? Having something "new" to promote might very well get more peeps through the gate. Even so, the decision to ride (or not ride) will still be based on what each guest enjoys and/or feels they can stomach. Someone who suffers from motion sickness or who doesn't like the feeling of falling isn't suddenly going to ride a coaster or flat ride simply because the name has changed.
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:07 PM
Puma > Flight Deck > J2.
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:08 PM
J2 is kind of a stupid name. Puma does sound better. Hey, I rather buy a roller coaster t-shirt called Puma than J2. What in the heck does J2 mean?
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:15 PM

Who said it had no affect on people visiting the park?

Honestly, I thought that's exactly what you were trying to tell me in the other thread when I said the name 'sells' the park/ride.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:19 PM
On the subject of originality, is naming a ride after an animal really so much greater than some of the other lame ducks being discussed lately?

I suppose it's better than another Wildcat - even if it essentially means the same thing.

I might build a coaster and name it Elephant :)

Of course someone would come along and name their new coaster Pachyderm and blow me out of the water. ;)

Just thinking out loud...

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:20 PM
^^^J2 was a reference to the *original* Jackrabbit in the park, a now-destroyed John Miller creation. Not entirely unlike Son of Beast, or Ravine Flyer 3, and now Ravine Flyer 2 (Waldameer apparently has numerical-dyslexia, LOL)... ;)

IMO: Jackrabbit > Tsunami > Puma > J2 > Flight Deck... :)

edit: Gonch messed up my ^arrows^. So I'm going to go ahead and build "Wooly Mammoth". That'll render both Elephant *and* Pachyderm obsolete...:)

*** Edited 1/10/2008 8:34:53 PM UTC by rollergator***

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:27 PM

Mamoosh said:
Who said it had no affect on people visiting the park?

Oh comd on, Moosh, tha's almost exactly what you said. The only difference between there and here is that Clementon has something "new" promote...but then so does Carowinds. And if names don't matter, then why pick Puma and not something like "J3"?

Or Flight Deck?

Clarify away.

-Nate *** Edited 1/10/2008 8:29:54 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:39 PM
I liked Tsunami myself.
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Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:04 PM
Same here... I liked Tsunami... but Puma is better than J2.

However... may have to change it just like Tsunami... what about all of those people who are visiting Clementon who were attacked at some point in time by a cougar or jaguarundi (genus Puma)? It could be just too traumatic. *** Edited 1/10/2008 9:05:17 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:05 PM

rollergator said:


Gonch messed up my ^arrows^. So I'm going to go ahead and build "Wooly Mammoth". That'll render both Elephant *and* Pachyderm obsolete...


Don't you mean extinct? Oh wait...

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:13 PM

I'm going to go ahead and build "Wooly Mammoth". That'll render both Elephant *and* Pachyderm obsolete...

Yeah, but I'll just add 'adventure' to the name and mine will intsantly be better.

Who wants to ride Pachyderm or Wooly Mammoth when they can go on an Elephant Adventure?

Even better, I'll up the ante further by using the 'extreme' prefix.

No one will be able to pass up the "Extreme Elephant Adventure"

Now that's a ride name. ;)

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:16 PM

Mamoosh said:Who said it had no affect on people visiting the park? Having something "new" to promote might very well get more peeps through the gate. Even so, the decision to ride (or not ride) will still be based on what each guest enjoys and/or feels they can stomach. Someone who suffers from motion sickness or who doesn't like the feeling of falling isn't suddenly going to ride a coaster or flat ride simply because the name has changed.

Righ Mooshie!

If Beast wasn't THE BEAST I really don't think anyone would care to buy a shirt ect. Let alone the reputation and lure of the ride.

Puma works, Fast cat.
Lot better than J2 which IMHO had no personallity as a name unless you knew about Jack Rabbit to begin with.

Chuck

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:32 PM
That's funny. They had an employee competition at Great America to name the Vortex. My friend submitted his own name (The Bill), but I chose Puma because it was original at the time. I should have guessed they were going to recycle a name from another park.

I guess the winner chose a name they had in their arsenal by coincidence. Then again, you have 2000 submissions, there will most likely be something you already have a copyright for.

Anyway, I lost because I was being "original" ;)

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:01 PM
Gonch: Honestly, I thought that's exactly what you were trying to tell me in the other thread when I said the name 'sells' the park/ride.

Nate: Oh comd on, Moosh, tha's almost exactly what you said.

No...it's not even close. I've maintained all along that, as bad as the name might be, it won't affect a person's decision to ride NOR the ride experience.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:17 PM

I've maintained all along that, as bad as the name might be, it won't affect a person's decision to ride NOR the ride experience.

Well then why did you disagree with me - that's essentially what I said.

The name will not effect the decision or the experience, but it will make a differnce in drawing people to the park in the first place.

As much as I love you, it sure sounded like you were telling me the ride name won't effect the decision to visit in the other thread.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:27 PM
Agreed, and that's how I interpreted Moosh's posts in the other thread. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that a ride's name has no affect on ridership of those people who are already in the park. I've always agreed with that statement.

HOWEVER, I don't agree that a ride's name has no affect on anything whatsoever. Names sell merchenside. As Gonch pointed out in the other thread, names serve marketing purpose. If you agree with those points, then why disagree with Gonch (in the other thread) when he made those points?

It seems to me like you're arguing two different things here.

-Nate

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:34 PM
OK, I'll agree that the name will have an affect in drawing people to the park...but only for those who don't get the visual component with the message. Show people a picture or video of the ride and it won't matter what the name is: at that point they either think it looks cool and want to ride or don't.

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