It seems their designs lifted off at a point were the late Schwarzkopf desings ended (inclunding a similar train and track design).
Why are they not building more rides at present?
I think the problems Chiller has had along with some of the problems Freeze had (oT had structural problems) may influence our thoughts some. I've yet to get BatmanChiller in 2 trips in 2 years.
Mummy in Florida is fantastic, and although I never think about the others LIMbowls, and Chiller and the like before I get to the park, I always try to ride those as much as possible.
Since the redesigned restraints were introduced, Premier has been at/near the top of my list....and Paramount and universal seem to agree. Probably took a while from the time of the retrofits to the contract-signings to the design stage to the construction of IJs and Mummys, so....
My thinking (I know, always dangerous), is that the LIM launch really can be included in the ride without harming the THEMING of their rides, whereas S&S launches are *comparatively* bulky, loud, and disruptive...this based solely on H:XLC, P-Keg riders please speak up if you think that ride is able to *conceal* the launch better...
Finally...Premier *is* getting credit from the people that count, those with money to spend building rides. Enthusiasts...well, we're coming along slower than the GP on this one...LOL!
If only SFNJ would ever get both sides of Chilla operating (doesn't NEED to be simultaneous launches, not that that would hurt a BIT)...
P.S. If you haven't been on a Freeze, then fix that....those things are Da Bomb! :)
*** Edited 6/18/2005 5:25:55 PM UTC by rollergator***
I think they don't get more credit because to my knowledge they haven't built any of the really large custom designed installations here in the states.
Building trains for Sonny, woulda hurt the reputation of PTC, and even c-punk's M-Flyers would have probably trouble on that thing (although they'd have to be modified, those are the ONLY chance Sonny has for long-term profitability and redeability...wonder if Paramount has "what it take$" to convince GCI, LOL).
But my point is I woudln't judge B&M too harshly over Psucklone, and ditto for Premier with Sonny. Wooden coaster trains are "best left to the professionals", and they're in Eastern and Central PA, not in MD, and certainly not in Switzerland...ROFL! :)
B&M went on to do WHAT in wooden coasters? Premier will likely not venture into that realm again either....
So far, Premiers steelies have been *considerably* more reliable, and certainly WAY safer, than Intamins, while staying more *technologically advanced* and more inventive, than the Beemers (see: tophat, the best inversion since Anton's vertical loop, LOL). They (Premier) showed their willingness to "fix it, LEARN from it, and move on"....the new restraints are less confining than any OTSRs (although I haven't been on SR/Ka, I have been on CA Screamin'), and are *Z-specific*...;)
Talk about a bright future....where's my shades? :)
*** Edited 6/18/2005 6:49:05 PM UTC by rollergator***
--Have an ICE ride (Mr. Freeze)
I think the problem with Premier is that they pretty much only do LIM coasters. That crazy is over now for the most part. And while LIM technology may be a bit more reliable than Rockets, LIM's are much more expensive to use and maintain. (I'm not even sure I'd say LIM's are more reliable than Rockets - including TTD and KK)
It's good that they are looking for a new niche in the coaster industry by building intense, highly themed FAMILY coasters. There's not much competition in that market. B&M obviously has the looper market cornered and a share of the hyper market with Intamin. Intamin has the launch coaster market pretty locked up at the moment along with their great hypers. There really was no room for Premier until they came up with some new stuff. And they did.
Personally, I would like to see a few more Spaghetti Bowls. Maybe if they came up with 1 or 2 more layouts for that people would buy some.
*** Edited 6/18/2005 9:11:05 PM UTC by MrX***
Just like Vekoma not getting any props for the decent coasters they've built for Disney.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
So all in all, I'd say they've made a nice recovery and I hope the "hometeam" continues to deliver. I know I always try to ride Joker's Jinx. It's a shame they never sold any of the Flying Circus extreme flats stateside, since they were a rep for them, but after watching a video over at amusementrides.de, it looks like a one and done kind of ride. Talk about motion sickness. I really enjoyed their one coaster that doesn't involve LIMs--Runaway Mountain at SFOT. Hopefully, someone else will get a clone of that someday. *** Edited 6/19/2005 1:12:46 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***
*** Edited 6/19/2005 3:30:35 AM UTC by GoliathKills***
The thing about Premier is that when they have problems with ride reliability and/or discomfort, they seem to go back and fix the problem, and instate that into future designs. They seem to get better all the time.
I love Premier, I can say it is my second fav. company.
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