Is Nemesis your very worst nightmare?

This question is aimed at coaster enthusiasts outside of the UK, but those of us within it can have our opinions as well.

What are your thoughts on Nemesis and Nemesis Inferno?

I have ridden the original and was extremely impressed with it, I found the ride to be intense, exciting, quick, and unique. However, appart from Nemesis, the only other inverters I have been on is Top Gun at Canada's Wonderland and Traumatiser at Spouthport Pleasureland, both Vekomas SLC, so I don't have much to rate it against. How does everyone else compare it to coasters in the inverted catergory and other rides in general in Great Britain, I think it is almost legendry, especially with the GP, but that is just my point of view.

Also, has anyone been on Nemesis Inferno yet, if so can you tell me your views on the ride, what was good, bad, and what could have made it better. I'm going to Thorpe Park on June the 3rd so these kind of questions are naturally going to be on my mind.

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I've ridden a few inverts but not many and i reckon Nemesis is top of the pile. Damn that helix lol. I've ridden Montu (a close 2nd), Blue Tornado and the Dragons at IOA so i havent had a great invert history. although nemesis is still my #1 coaster even though Grand National came close..

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I've ridden a few inverts but not many and i reckon Nemesis is top of the pile. Damn that helix lol. I've ridden Montu (a close 2nd), Blue Tornado and the Dragons at IOA so i havent had a great invert history. although nemesis is still my #1 coaster even though Grand National came close..

There is a review/photos of Thorpe Park and Nemesis Inferno on my site (see signature). Basically it's a good ride, but not as good as Nemesis.

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Nemesis lol. the first time i went on it it was cold and wet and the train was roaring through the track. Intimidation! i love that ride and yes, it is no.1 just above 'air'- air is not really thrilling, but it's soo fun.

As for Nemesis Inferno. It is a great ride, but just lacks some of the intensity which the original has. despite that, it really does pull huge G's in the loop, corkscrew turnaround and final helix. It would be a really good coaster if the turn after the 0-G role was more intense, but otherfrom that, the ride is amazing, i love it ad i'll be back on it later in june

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Colossus [1]
Nemesis: Inferno [6]

I liked Nemesis a lot.

Will be riding Inferno next Saturday I hope...

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Nemesis Inferno would be so much better in my eyes if there had been an extra inversion on it like an Immelman or Diving loop which noticeably differs from the standard loop and corkscrews it actually has. I would have loved to have seen B&M attempt a Bowtie element on NI staight after the zero-g roll so the tight right hand turn could still feature next. This would obviously mean that NI would have to be taller to provide the speed to complete the inversion and a bit longer to fit the inversion in the space provided but it would have been worth it. The same entry/exit version of the bowite element is the batwing which from reviews I have read is the best inverted inversion, so why didn't Thore Park think of having something like this. I suppose the cost of the themeing and redevelopment of the site are good reasons, but I just think NI could have been so much better than it already is and really stood out from the crowd if it have had something a bit more about it.

How does Nemesis rate when compared to all the other good inverters for people that have been on most of them.

Is it better than Raptor, Alpengeist, Montu, and Batman?

I think Montu looks to have everything - speed, a good selection of inversions, height, tunnels, and themeing, so for me this looks to be a better ride than Nemesis. The other rides I mentioned, in my opinion, all miss something which makes them more comparable with Nemesis. Of course you can't really build a ride that is perfect, but I think Montu is close, just from the looks of the thing. I will be able to give my final verdict on it when I go to Busch Gardens in October, but until then I will have to make use of other peoples judgements, so let me know.......

I've ridden: Nemesis, Nemesis: Inferno, Dragons Ice + Fire, Alpengeist and Montu.

All I can say is that Nemesis would be top of the list only if it had a bit more to it. What there is however is amazing on it but in my opinion it is too short. Everyone says quality not quantity but when a ride is over in 30 seconds like Nemesis that length of it really lets down the ride.

Saying this however Nemesis is an amazing ride and having ridden it last weekend it is definitely better than N:I which is still a brilliant ride. Nemesis' theming is in my opinion the best on any invert simply for it's positioning in 'the pit' it's just a shame the area is starting to look a bit tatty and grafiti rules the queue lines.

Nemesis Inferno is a great ride to and is made that much better by the Volcano themeing and tunnel at the beginning of the ride. I offer one piece of advice DON'T judge it on your first ride in the morning. Get inline at 6 oclock and you will be amazed at how much quicker it really gets as the day goes on!

Alpengesit is my fav invert simply for the height, Nemesis is second!

So if a park was looking to build 'the perfect' inverter they are looking for several things:

- A unique location. A slightly bigger version of the Nemesis pitt is the ideal place situated in the middle of a dense ravine forrest similar to that of Alpengeist.

- Speed. All inverters have this but it needs to keep up all the way through the ride. Some enthusiasts say this is only problem with Montu. When the mid-course brakes are on they ruin the second half of the ride to a degree. So no mid corse brakes would also be good.

- Length. Ride must only be as long as it needs to be, making sure its relentless to the end. Nemesis almost pulls this off, it just needed to be that little bit longer.

- Height. Alpengeists drop is often reffered to as the best of any inverter, and one of the most exciting of any roller coaster. This is partly due to its unusual spiral and also because of how tall it is.

- Inversions. The standard loop(s), corkscrew(s), a zero-g roll and also a unique double inversion such as the batwing are good enough to provide a large thrill. Over use of inversions in sacrifice of other good elements such as helixs and tight bends can lead to an average ride, i.e Dragon Khan.

- Themeing. Alpengeist, Montu, and Nemesis all have it in abundance with devistating effects. Coasters such as the Raptor are down graded because of lack of themeing, so it is important. The weider and more unsual the better.

- Layout. Continually moving in and out of a coasters structure in a twister style including near misses and tunnels in the way that Montu and Nemesis provides a more exciting ride than the almost out 'n' back style of Alpengeist and The Great Bear.

This is what I think it would take to build the ultimate inverter, let me know if you agree, if not discuss changes that you would make.

Just 3 points... Speed; A coaster can have MCBRs, it helps improve capacity and doesn't tear up the ride as much. I just has to be well paced and the MCBR doesn't ruin the rest of the ride:

Length: it doesn't have to be super long, if your only building a 130ft coaster, the right length for me would be about 3000-3500ft.

Height: to me too much height means more consistant G's and more of what you can see ahead of you, i think about 130-150ft is about right

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Colossus [1]
Nemesis: Inferno [6]

I guess I'd have to pretty much agree with Damandan. Out of all the B&M inverts I've been on, this is the order I like them in:

Alpengeist, Nemesis, Fire Dragon, Ice Dragon, Montu, Batman, Top Gun (PGA), Great Bear.

Montu would be the favorite, but during my last visit the midcourse just sucked the entire life out of the ending. Believe me when I say that I hate complaining about something silly like brakes, but it certainly wasn't the same ride I remembered.

Nemesis is very, very awesome indeed (and not to mention powerful), but I'm a sucker for Alpie's height. They're all great rides anyway, so it doesn't matter too much to me. :)