Is CP selling Schwa*****en?????

Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:37 PM

Can this be?? How many of theses lovely rides can there be in the US?? I know photo is not actually her, but could CP be moving her out for Chaos and Troika??? Chaos may also be on the selling block as well!! Any thoughts??

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:40 PM
Not unless th ename is not Hully Gully ans it all of a sudden became trailer mounted.

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:43 PM
She could be trailer mounted!! She's been moved before!!!

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:46 PM

Yeah, wouldn't you like to get your hands on her.

-'Playa

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:00 PM
Why would they rid themselves of Chaos? That thing came in only in 1997. It's still a baby flat-ride in Cedar Point's terms.
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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:02 PM

Trailer mounted in concrete Uh no.

Schwabinchen is a park model.

Chaos is moved too does that mean it's trailer mounted?

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:36 PM

Are you sure it is not trailer-mounted? Like many trailer rides it has an angled deck and overall it the two rides do look similar:

http://www.virtualmidway.com/rides/schwabinchen.asp

http://www.thepointol.com/schwabinchen.jpg

IIRC Cedar Point has two other trailer-mounted Mack rides, Matterhorn and Calypso, and a trailer-mounted coaster, Wildcat.

Adam

http://history.amusement-parks.com

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Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:32 PM
CP's ride is a 1970 model, not 1974. That alone says that the ride pictured can't be CP's ride. It's interesting that CP advertised the Hully Gully in 1970, and then the ride turned out to be a Schwabinchen, which I think is identical.
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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:48 AM

There was a real HULLY GULLY craze in germany in the late 6ts, early 7ts. Most of them were called HULLY GULLY. I think there was only one called SCHWABINCHEN (a wordplay, meaning "girl from Schwaben", due to the location of the rides owner). This ride used to play Munichs OKTOBERFEST and was sold directly from the spot to the US. There have been a few rides touring the fairs with a similar "girl theme".

After disappearing almost completely from the fair circuit during the 8ts, there seems to be some sort of renaissance recently. Some original rides appear here and there and are quite popular again. Possibly this has got something to do with nostalgia. I´d guess that there are still a few rides in storage.

Do they run SCHWABINCHEN backwards as well? This used to be very popular and the term "Hully Gully backwards!" even went down in common language.

Oh well, enuff of this...

regards

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:44 AM
Besides, if CP were selling their ride, don't you think they'd show a picture of the actual ride itself with it's current name and backdrop instead of the Hully Gully one?

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:57 AM
Thanks for the information, Fawcett_Towers. I knew there was a reason I thought most of the rides CP bought from Mickey Hughes were trailer-mounted from German showmen or the factory.

Adam
http://history.amusement-parks.com

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:44 AM

Did SFGADv have a Schwabinchen also at one time? I seem to remember having a map from the early 80's that had a Schwabinchen on it. I could be completely wrong, though...

I also recall seeing a "Hully Gully" picture where the cars had canopys on them (similar to the old umbrellas used on Calypso rides). That must have been the "deluxe" version!

ray p. (who loves the artwork on the Schwabinchen backdrop- flying heads, pretzels, beer steins, singing towers, the skinny chick on the end.... who thought of this stuff?!)

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:49 AM
All good things in one place!!!

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:05 PM

Here's an interesting tid bit of information about the name "Schwabinchen." Translating it to German it means "The Little Croat (pronounced Crow-at)" In a way, it's a racist remark towards Croatians (refugees from a section of Yugoslavia) that took refuge in Germany and Austria during WWI and WWII.

Not has changed from that time to now. You still have the situation with Kosovo, which is a part of the former Yugoslavia.. but that's in another lesson ;)

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:54 PM
While that may be true, Robobud, I am going to agree with Fawcett_Towers on this one regarding the name. In addition to having the diminutive ending it also has a feminine one. I think in this case it was simply a case of the owner personalizing his ride by giving a personality to the busty women on the ride and simply means, loosely translated, a young Swabian women.

Ray, yes, there used to be a Schwabinchen at Great Adventure. However, it went under some different names as time went on. I think that it had a Mexican theme for the 2001 season and was pulled from the park this year.

Adam
http://history.amusement-parks.com

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:10 PM

Okay... what is the difference between a Schwabinchen, Hully Gully, and a Trabant?

I always thought that Trabant was the production name.

And to answer a question from above. Great Adventure did have a (Schwabinchen, Hully Gully, or Trabant) themed like a dancing woman. The seats were around the hem of her skirt and went up and down as she twirled.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:31 PM
I believe the Trabant was Chance's production model (often themed as a Roulette Wheel) and it was replaced in the early 1990's by the Wipeout. The Hully Gully was Mack's production model of the ride and it appears that the Schwabinchen was simply an altered flash package they sold this ride owner before CP had it.

Adam
http://history.amusement-parks.com

PS: I had always thought the Schwabinchen was a Schwarzkopf, but considering CP had a good relationship with Mickey Hughes the fact that it is a Mack does make sense.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:34 PM
The only difference I see besides the name is that a Trabant sits flat while the others sit at an angle.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:38 PM
Robodud you aint even Serbian so dont be talkin like you know something
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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:38 PM
It's the only flat ride that has dancing condoms in the background.

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