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Thursday, November 6, 2003 7:43 PM
Arrow has been: Arrow development, Arrow Dynamics, Arrow/Huss, Arrow, and S&S/ Arrow. Is now just S&S?
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Thursday, November 6, 2003 7:54 PM
It's S&S/Arrow. Or even more simply - S&S. Arrow is now kind of like a subdivision of S&S.
Friday, November 7, 2003 5:10 AM
And it's doing so much more since the acquisition!
Actually, I bet the parts business alone is making it all worth their time.
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Friday, November 7, 2003 5:29 AM
Yeah, there are enough Arrow built coasters, flumes and other assorted rides that I`m sure they make enough replacement parts for all of their coasters.
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Friday, November 7, 2003 6:13 AM
Exactly... look at the custom replacement pieces made for Canyon Blaster when they moved it to Great Escape.
Friday, November 7, 2003 5:14 PM
...and I presume they built the new tubs for half a train at Kings Island for this season...
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Monday, November 10, 2003 12:47 AM
There was an interview post-Chapter 11 and pre-S&S that basically said that the company was able to meet its payroll etc., from the parts business alone. They've got 85 coasters according to RCDB, and I can't imagine how many flumes etc. that all need new parts every now and again. Their problem was the Six Flags lawsuit was holding them back from paying investors and R&D, which was really the future. I really thought if they could get that sorted out nicely, there'd be a real future (again...) for Arrow.
Instead, they were bought up by the company that is destined to head down the exact path that Arrow did. We're gonna see a well-deserved crash and burn if Stan keeps playing his cards the way he has been. :)
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Monday, November 10, 2003 6:31 AM
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Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:58 AM
Arrow's parts business generates approx 4 million per year in revenue. The parts are marked up approx 250% from actual manufacturing costs for sale to the parks. factoring in discounts lets say 200% gross profit which translates to 2 million. Operating costs rent/labor/benefits etc are approx .5 mil, last time I checked the liabilitly premiums were approx 1 mil per year which is probably now shared by S&S so lets say .5 mil which leaves 1 million net profit for the parts business alone.